FFLs how are you handling braced pistol transfers in current environment?

[arakboss]

I'm not sure if the ATFs new rule has hit the Federal Register yet but how are you handling braced pistol transfers that are coming in currently and after the rule hits the Federal Register?

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[ilikegunspdx]

Wow, talk about publicly dangling ffls a rope so they can hang themselves on a public forum. Why not ask your ffl if you have a question instead?

Especially as everything is in flux and conflicting info from atf. Some of the best lawyers in the country can't agree how to advise clients on some of this stuff and you want ffl's to post publicly what they are doing?

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

lolz, have you been to any store that has any inventory left? How are they handling them? By spending the money they made selling them

 

[Knobgoblin]

Actually gonna make this phone call once or twice by Tuesday

 

[arakboss]

My suggestion would be to remove brace prior to bringing in a pistol to an FFL for a transfer.

If you are planning to have a braced pistol sent to an FFL for transfer, call ahead to receiving FFL and make sure they can and will accept it. I would be hesitant to order a braced pistol at this point, not knowing when the new rule will hit the Federal Register. It could happen while your braced pistol is in transit and create problems for receiving FFL.

 

[billdeserthills]

You can see how concerned gun builders are about selling braced guns...

Q Honey Badger 300 Blackout Pistol 7

Properties Additional Info HONEY BADGER PIST 300BLK

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Alex Pro Firearms AR-15 Econo 5.56mm AR-15 Pistol with Burnt Bronze Finish and M-LOK Handguard - $429.99 (Free S/H on Firearms)

This Econo-Model of Alex Pro's AR-15 Pistol features a 7.5

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[arakboss]

You can see how concerned gun builders are about selling braced guns...

Q Honey Badger 300 Blackout Pistol 7

Properties Additional Info HONEY BADGER PIST 300BLK

gun.deals

Alex Pro Firearms AR-15 Econo 5.56mm AR-15 Pistol with Burnt Bronze Finish and M-LOK Handguard - $429.99 (Free S/H on Firearms)

This Econo-Model of Alex Pro's AR-15 Pistol features a 7.5

gun.deals

PSA is still selling them too, until the rule hits the Federal Register. Then the music stops.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/pistol-brace-rule.html

 

[arakboss]

I think the rule just hit the Federal Register.

Federal Register :: Request Access

 

[arakboss]

PSA is still selling them too, until the rule hits the Federal Register. Then the music stops.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/pistol-brace-rule.html

Palmetto has marked all of their braced pistols out of stock. Plenty of non braced pistols still available.

Primary arms has now marked their braced pistols out of stock or no longer available.

 

[wired]

PSA is my local gun store. Theyve been out of braced stuff for a few days. Still lots of braces on the shelf

 

[arakboss]

PSA is my local gun store. Theyve been out of braced stuff for a few days. Still lots of braces on the shelf

There should be tons of braces since they will be yanking them off of all their pistols.

 

[arakboss]

My FFL seems to think he has 120 days to do business as usual. My understanding is the 120 days is only a grace period for current possessor to apply for free tax stamp or convert braced firearm to legal configuration. All other aspects of the new rule begin today? Who is right?

 

[arakboss]

1/31/2023 Brace Rule ATF Webinar link through youtubers channel

LIVE WEBINAR WITH ROB & THE ATF

Confused about all the misinformation about the upcoming arm brace rule from the ATF? Learn what is going to be legal and what will be illegal directly from ...

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[arakboss]

Rifled barreled firearms should be easy for FFL to handle by removing brace.

Smoothbore firearms could be more problematic. Simply removing a brace from a short barreled smoothbore firearm would likely leave you with an SBS/AOW. My suggestion would be to remove brace and add a birdheads grip to firearm. It might be a good idea to keep a couple of birdshead grips around that would fit the most popular braced smoothbore firearms, Shockwave and Tac 14 for example.


If this came into to shop for transfer, it would be a no go unless seller wants to switch out brace for birdshead grip. I know he thinks it's compliant but it won't fly under new rule.

Mossberg 590 shockwave

Looking to sell my shockwave 590 it's a 6-shot, 12-gauge firearm with a 14-inch barrel featuring a breacher muzzle; black anodized receiver; matte black barrel and magazine tube; and aluminum Mlock-equipped forend Extras: 6 shell holder Top rail mount Sig Romeo5 red dot The 590 Shockwave...

www.northwestfirearms.com

 

[trevi]

PSA is my local gun store. Theyve been out of braced stuff for a few days. Still lots of braces on the shelf

With all the cool stuff they presented in Shot Show 2023, they need a second factory to make them goods,..... You know, those Biden approved F15s.

 

[Member 53328]

Another "quality" thread…. This guy should just work for the ATF.

 

[arakboss]

Tigard Pawn 4 More will no longer transfer (as of 1/31/23) any short barreled firearms with stabilizing braces. If you want to do a person to person transfer of a short barreled firearm there, they ask you to please make sure that no brace is attached to the firearm or brought into the store with the firearm being transferred.

If you would like to have a short barreled firearm shipped in to Tigard Pawn for transfer, they ask that you please make sure that no brace will be attached to the firearm or included in the package with the firearm when they receive it.

 

[wired]

Tigard Pawn 4 More will no longer transfer (as of 1/31/23) any short barreled firearms with stabilizing braces. If you want to do a person to person transfer of a short barreled firearm there, they ask you to please make sure that no brace is attached to the firearm or brought into the store with the firearm being transferred.

If you would like to have a short barreled firearm shipped in to Tigard Pawn for transfer, they ask that you please make sure that no brace will be attached to the firearm or included in the package with the firearm when they receive it.

Thats the rules now. Its not them. They can only transfer SBRs on a form 4 and braced pistols are now SBR's.One violation, they lose their license.

 

[arakboss]

Thats the rules now. Its not them. They can only transfer SBRs on a form 4 and braced pistols are now SBR's.One violation, they lose their license.

Yep, trying to get the word out as I still see lots of braced short barreled firearms listed in the NWFA classifieds and I am trying to save customers and Tigard Pawn the hassle of dealing with customers bringing them into their store.

 

[billdeserthills]

Boom! Congress targets the ATF