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Few questions on conceal carry in WA.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by footballplaya98311, Mar 5, 2015.

  1. footballplaya98311

    footballplaya98311 Bremerton Member

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    Hello all! I hope everyone has been enjoying the sunshine. I'm new to conceal carry and have a few questions. Can I carry on the state ferries? Can I carry at a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as I'm not drinking? Can I sit in the bar section of said restaurant with friends and not be drinking? I know I can't carry in a bar or anywhere while drinking alcohol. Looking for some clarification. Thanks in advance!!
     
  2. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    I'm not at a computer, but I believe you're looking for RCW section 9.

    Yes, you can carry on a ferry, yes, you can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as you are not sitting at the bar. No, you can not go into bars or anywhere that minors are restricted.
     
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  3. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    You can be in a restaurant that serves alcohol but not in the part designated as the bar while carrying.
     
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  4. footballplaya98311

    footballplaya98311 Bremerton Member

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    That's what I thought. I'll double check and look up RCW section 9. Thanks guys!!
     
  5. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    You can carry here or there, but you can't just carry anywhere.

    You can carry in your house, but not in a courthouse.

    You can carry on a boat while it is afloat.

    You can carry in your car, but not in a bar.

    You can carry in your office, but not the post office.

    You can carry while reading the mail, but never in a jail.

    You can carry in the rain, but not on a train.

    You can carry at the pool, but never in a school.

    You can carry as long as you're sane, but never on a plane.

    You can carry with mace, but never on a military base.

    You can carry on a ridge, but never over that bridge.

    You can carry on a date, but not in just any state.

    You can carry if you stink, but you shouldn't if you drink.

    You can carry on vacation, but not on most reservations.

    You can carry in missionary position, but sometimes you must get express permission.

    You can carry while you order, but never over the northern border.

    You can carry in the park, especially after dark.
     
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  6. footballplaya98311

    footballplaya98311 Bremerton Member

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    Lol very helpful rhyme!
     
  7. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    You can carry while you rhyme, because you should carry all of the time.

    It is not a crime to carry almost all of the time.
     
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  8. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Um, Clever rhyme. Can you clear up the reservation and bridge and train lines in particular?

    And just because


    RCW 9.41.050
    Carrying firearms.
    (1)(a) Except in the person's place of abode or fixed place of business, a person shall not carry a pistol concealed on his or her person without a license to carry a concealed pistol.
    (b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction.
    (2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
    (b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.
    (3)(a) A person at least eighteen years of age who is in possession of an unloaded pistol shall not leave the unloaded pistol in a vehicle unless the unloaded pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
    (b) A violation of this subsection is a misdemeanor.
    (4) Nothing in this section permits the possession of firearms illegal to possess under state or federal law.
    [2003 c 53 § 28; 1997 c 200 § 1; 1996 c 295 § 4; 1994 sp.s. c 7 § 405; 1982 1st ex.s. c 47 § 3; 1961 c 124 § 4; 1935 c 172 § 5; RRS § 2516-5.]
     
  9. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    So If I am reading that right if there is a pistol in a car it must be on the licensee's person. It cannot be stuffed under the seat, in the glove box or a gym bag and if you violate that its a misdemeanor. Anyone ever had a problem with that? I mean it seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be stash a carry gun on a long drive. I am kind of surprised at that wording.
     
  10. footballplaya98311

    footballplaya98311 Bremerton Member

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    Wow I guess it does read that way.. never realized that. Who would I contact to question that?
     
  11. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    Answers"
    1) yes, I ride and carry. Ferry's are where bikes get on AND leave 1st!
    2) yes a mans gotta eat. you can even have a drink but do not exceed .08
    3) no - can't go into an area where children aren't allowed with a handgun (unless it's a school-another no-no)
     
  12. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Reservation: Indian reservations are a sovereign nation. You must get permission from the chief tribal LEO.

    Bridge: Oregon doesn't have reciprocity.

    Train: Carrying on Amtrak is forbidden, with the exception of checked baggage.
     
  13. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Gotcha, So driving through the Muckleshoot reservation which I do several times a day.... Mmmm. I guess I gotta go figure out who the tribal muckity muck is and get a blessing.
     
  14. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    I found this too...

    What places are off-limits when carrying a concealed weapon in Washington?


    • (a) The restricted access areas of a jail, or of a law enforcement facility, or any place used for the confinement of a person (i) arrested for, charged with, or convicted of an offense, (ii) held for extradition or as a material witness, or (iii) otherwise confined pursuant to an order of a court, except an order under chapter 13.32A or 13.34 RCW. Restricted access areas do not include common areas of egress or ingress open to the general public;
    • (b) Those areas in any building which are used in connection with court proceedings, including courtrooms, jury rooms, judge’s chambers, offices and areas used to conduct court business, waiting areas, and corridors adjacent to areas used in connection with court proceedings. The restricted areas do not include common areas of ingress and egress to the building that is used in connection with court proceedings, when it is possible to protect court areas without restricting ingress and egress to the building. The restricted areas shall be the minimum necessary to fulfill the objective of this subsection (1)(b).
    • In addition, the local legislative authority shall provide either a stationary locked box sufficient in size for pistols and key to a weapon owner for weapon storage, or shall designate an official to receive weapons for safekeeping, during the owner’s visit to restricted areas of the building. The locked box or designated official shall be located within the same building used in connection with court proceedings. The local legislative authority shall be liable for any negligence causing damage to or loss of a weapon either placed in a locked box or left with an official during the owner’s visit to restricted areas of the building.
    • The local judicial authority shall designate and clearly mark those areas where weapons are prohibited, and shall post notices at each entrance to the building of the prohibition against weapons in the restricted areas;
    • (c) The restricted access areas of a public mental health facility certified by the department of social and health services for inpatient hospital care and state institutions for the care of the mentally ill, excluding those facilities solely for evaluation and treatment. Restricted access areas do not include common areas of egress and ingress open to the general public;
      • EXCEPTION: this section does not apply to any administrator or employee of the facility or to any person who, upon entering the place or facility, directly and promptly proceeds to the administrator of the facility or the administrator’s designee and obtains written permission to possess the firearm while on the premises.
    • (d) That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age; or
      • EXCEPTIONS: proprietor of the premises or his or her employees while engaged in their employment.
    • (e) The restricted access areas of a commercial service airport designated in the airport security plan approved by the federal transportation security administration, including passenger screening checkpoints at or beyond the point at which a passenger initiates the screening process. These areas do not include airport drives, general parking areas and walkways, and shops and areas of the terminal that are outside the screening checkpoints and that are normally open to unscreened passengers or visitors to the airport. Any restricted access area shall be clearly indicated by prominent signs indicating that firearms and other weapons are prohibited in the area.
    • (2) Cities, towns, counties, and other municipalities may enact laws and ordinances:
    • (b) Restricting the possession of firearms in any stadium or convention center, operated by a city, town, county, or other municipality, except that such restrictions shall not apply to:
    • (i) Any pistol in the possession of a person licensed under RCW 9.41.070 or exempt from the licensing requirement by RCW 9.41.060; or
    • (5) The perimeter of the premises of any specific location covered by subsection (1) of this section shall be posted at reasonable intervals to alert the public as to the existence of any law restricting the possession of firearms on the premises.
     
  15. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Yes and no, if you remain on a state or federal highway, then you are good to go, just don't stop to take a leak.
     
  16. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    Driving through you are on state built roads and they Res. cops have to recognize your CPL. Off the main road or in the casino might get ya scalped:eek:
     
  17. Scvette

    Scvette Olympia Active Member

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    Not true,doesn't have to be on permit holder.
     
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    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  19. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    So EVERYBODY that goes to Cabales in Marysville need to ask permission first??

    What if I buy a gun, do I need to ask permission to leave??
     
  20. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    You are reading it wrong.

    It does not have to be on your person.
     
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