felon shot 5 times with 5.56 to stop him

[TTSX]

If that was a .45 out of a 1911, it would have only taken one to the left hand and he'd be dedder than a door hinge.

 

[Member 53328]

If that was a .45 out of a 1911, it would have only taken one to the left hand and he'd be dedder than a door hinge.

Yea. Cause knock down power….. haha

 

[Lilhigbee]

Should have used a 9mm and just blown his lungs out, sheesh!!

 

[Yarome]

Should have used a 9mm and just blown his lungs out, sheesh!!

That's so barbaric and bloodthirsty.

All LEo's need is a double barrel shotgun... and find the nearest balcony. Sheesh!!

 

[Xaevian]

Or a Canadian ride-along with a hammer.






Too soon?

 

[rjmt]

That's what my mags are loaded with, I've also experimented with 90g loads out of a 11.5 inch as well. 77g Mk262 is a stout load with disproportionate caliber to wound channels, there is no better documented load for 5.56 self defense loads against unarmored flesh.

Paul Harrel addressed this on one of his videos

 

[kmk1012]

If that was a .45 out of a 1911, it would have only taken one to the left hand and he'd be dedder than a door hinge.

I think the major disconnect about the age old question of the best defensive round could be attributed to the lack of everyone being drugged up "back in the day". People make fun of oldsters saying 45ACP is the best, possibly because it really did only take a round or two to stop the threat back in the day. Now days, there are so many people hopped up on readily available prescription drugs and cheap street drugs that can make a person fight much further. True, a 9mm may have less energy than something bigger but as always, placement has always been key. 50 years back, the average Joe was a much better shot than the average person of today due to regular exposure to practice. All that being said, I'll stick with a round or two of we'll placed 12ga buck over a pistol any day.

 

[Provincial]

I think the major disconnect about the age old question of the best defensive round could be attributed to the lack of everyone being drugged up "back in the day". People make fun of oldsters saying 45ACP is the best, possibly because it really did only take a round or two to stop the threat back in the day. Now days, there are so many people hopped up on readily available prescription drugs and cheap street drugs that can make a person fight much further. True, a 9mm may have less energy than something bigger but as always, placement has always been key. 50 years back, the average Joe was a much better shot than the average person of today due to regular exposure to practice. All that being said, I'll stick with a round or two of we'll placed 12ga buck over a pistol any day.

Do you mean like Philippine Moros hopped up on drugs, 1899 to 1902? These were the reason for the .45 ACP in the first place!

 

[nehalemguy]

I have hammered that with the Wife. Telling her if she is home and someone gets in, shoot and keep shooting until they go down and stay down. It's why her bedside gun holds 18 rounds. The rifle 33 rounds. Have told her she does not have to exactly mag dump but, fire as fast as she can hit and not stop firing if the person is still standing there. That after they go down do NOT go near them, get away, call 911, let the people who show up "check on them".

 

[nehalemguy]

Or a Canadian ride-along with a hammer.

Too soon?

No such thing.

-E-

 

[ODG_Chad]

.45 isn't a sure thing, either.

Surely everyone here knows about the story of Officer Tim Gramins. The cop that now carries 145 rounds of ammo all because of a criminal that soaked up 14 rounds of .45ACP out of Officer Gramins' Glock, but didn't go down until the final headshot got him. The criminal was apparently sober, as well.

Officer Tim Gramins, Skokie Police Dept. - The ProArms Podcast

August 2008, Officer Tim Gramins of the Skokie, IL Police dept. comes across a bad guy, a real bad guy who soaked up 14 rounds of .45ACP before the last 3 shots took him down. Listen here to Officer Gramins tell the story of what happened that day.

proarmspodcast.com

Why one cop carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job

Before the call that changed Sergeant Timothy Gramins’ life forever, he typically carried 47 rounds of handgun ammunition on his person while on duty

www.police1.com

 

[ilikegunspdx]

This guy yesterday in Portland was shot by police and after that he was "uncooperative" so they called in the negotiation and crisis team.

He set a car on fire and was armed.

Police shoot, injure suspect after he allegedly set vehicle on fire in SE Portland

A man was taken to the hospital after being shot by police in Southeast Portland Monday morning.The incident started at about 8:50 a.m. with reports of a man s

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