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Fed's raise rates 1/4%

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Medic!, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    How do you see this affecting the stock market?

    Or anything for that matter?
     
  2. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Gold & silver starting moving upwards.
     
  3. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Oil getting oilier.
     
  4. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    Its a :yawn: If you remember the market corrected a few months ago when the Fed held off at the last minute. Heading back towards normalcy is a good thing - providing the Fed goes easy as she goes. Because the economic numbers are still inconsistent. Quarterly earnings are more of a concern than a 1/4 point bump.
     
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  5. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    See I told you.
     
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  6. bolus

    bolus Portland Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Bitcoin is at $450!
     
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  7. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    I could see this in the short term. As a reaction to fear the stock market will flounder?
    But if the economy continues to do fine. I could see metal prices continue to drop?

    Other commodities like Oil should do the same I would think?
     
  8. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    As interest rates rise, the dollar rises, commodities go down. Including (manipulated) gold. Generally speaking. (Temporary shocks aside)
     
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  9. thorborg

    thorborg portland oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Rather like auctioning off an air guitar.
    But wait, earning .0025 cents on a dollar worth nothing but a promise is the same thing!
    I digress. op"s Question; savers up, lenders down
     
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  10. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    M1/cash will be more expensive.
     
  11. bolus

    bolus Portland Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    When home computers were still powerful enough to mine bitcoins I made enough to get a home entertainment system and some other stuff. Not bad for $50 of electricity that month.

    Im not sure why bitcoins are not more accepted by firearms dealers. Plenty of places will instantly convert them to cash so there is no concern about volitility. it bypasses the whole Operation Choke Point where Obama made firearm business a risk to credit card companies. Fee's are about 1% compared to 3% for merchant accounts that still work with dealers.
     
  12. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Regional Bank Stock prices should increase.
     
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  13. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    has been dropping for weeks; it hit $37 yesterday which is below production costs. Venezuela is collapsing into a Black Hole. Baltic Dry Index is in the toilet as are all commodities outside PMs.
    BTW for every 1 ounce of physical gold there have been an additional 300 ozs of non-existent gold sold on paper, or hypothecated (I believe that's the term)
     
  14. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Stuff will happen, I am sure of it.
     
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  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The sky is falling the sky is falling.

    And yet I have to go to work tomorrow
     
  16. tashworth1

    tashworth1 oregon McMinnville area Active Member

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    remain frugal my friends
     
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  17. Vanillagerrilla

    Vanillagerrilla Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    What sucks for me is that I'm building a house and need to secure the mortgage ... Rates will go up, mortgage payments go up, bullet monies go down...
     
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  18. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    So which one is the lie??

    U.S. labor market strengthening, factories struggling
    12.17.15
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits last week fell from a five-month high, suggesting sustained labor market healing that could lead to further Federal Reserve interest rate hikes next year.

    "The labor market continues to stay tight with demand for workers strong and pockets of actual shortages in many industries. The Fed has achieved the employment part of its dual mandate and this is what triggered the rates liftoff yesterday," said Chris Rupkey, chief financial economist at MUFG Union Bank in New York.
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    US Manufacturing PMI Plunges To Lowest Since 2012 As Factory Orders Collapse To 2009 Lows
    12/16/2015
    Following the collapse in industrial production, it is no surprise that Markit's Manufacturing PMI has plunged to 51.3, its lowest since October 2012. Under the surface it is a disaster with production volume growth the softest since October 2013, and new orders crashed to worst since September 2009. Finally, don't shrug this off, although manufacturing only accounts for around one-tenth of the economy, the Manufacturing PMI exhibits a high correlation of 77% with GDP as industrial activity has an important cyclical impact on other parts of the economy.
     
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  19. thorborg

    thorborg portland oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Not much yet, acquire a 30 year fixed mortgage if you can, tighten your belt, load your own bullets, drive the clunker and get it paid off in 15 you save a bunch.
    Banks will cringe, Everything you pay over the fixed monthly payment must go to the principle. If you're hurten at 15, refinance a little just before you pay it off to buy the better car, go on vacation, and have a nice Christmas for a change, but have home buyers rate.
    A year or two after that, you'll'' be free and clear.
     
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  20. Vanillagerrilla

    Vanillagerrilla Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!
    Im thinking of reducing my 401K contributions and use that $$ to put on the mortgage too.
    I'd rather be debt free than poor and old... Just sayin'
     
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