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Federalize the national guard?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Just Jim, Jan 12, 2010.

  1. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    So now Obama is setting up structure that will nationalize our state guards. Will this give him the tools to steal your guns?


    THE WHITE HOUSE
    Office of the Press Secretary

    For Immediate Release January 11, 2010

    EXECUTIVE ORDER

    ESTABLISHMENT OF THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNORS

    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America,including section 1822 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-181), and in order to strengthen further the partnership between the Federal Government and State governments to protect our Nation and its people and property,it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Section 1. Council of Governors.

    (a) There is established a Council of Governors (Council).The Council shall consist of 10 State Governors appointed by the President (Members), of whom no more than five shall be of the same political party. The term of service for each Member appointed to serve on the Council shall be 2 years, but a Member may be reappointed for additional terms.

    (b)The President shall designate two Members, who shall not be members of the same political party, to serve as Co-Chairs of the Council.

    Sec. 2. Functions. The Council shall meet at the call of the Secretary of Defense or the Co-Chairs of the Council to exchange views, information, or advice with the Secretary of Defense; the Secretary of Homeland Security; the Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; the Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement; the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Homeland Defense and Americas' Security Affairs; the Commander,United States Northern Command; the Chief, National Guard Bureau; the Commandant of the Coast Guard; and other appropriate officials of the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense, and appropriate officials of other executive departments or agencies as may be designated by the Secretary of Defense or the Secretary of Homeland Security. Such views, information, or advice shall concern:

    (a) matters involving the National Guard of the various States;

    (b) homeland defense;

    (c) civil support;

    (d) synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; (Emphasis supplied, MBV) and

    (e) other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.
     
  2. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    The president has always had the power to Federalize the National guard and has done so many times starting in 1791 during the Whiskey Rebellion.

    This was a major problem in Katrina when the governor fought with Bush over federalizing the Louisiana guard thus delaying federal aid.
     
  3. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Creeping Federalism for sure. And no-one cares. Prior to the War Between the States, our nation was the united States, with emphasis on the individual states. Now it is the United states with emphasis on an all-powerful controlling, unaccountable bureacracy.

    Are gun rights and other freedoms at risk? Certainly. They are all of the time. Constant vigilance is required to combat it, but with the growing Dependancy Class of US citizens (and non-citizens, apparently) it will involve more effort. Hopefully the whole crooked house of cards will crumble on its own without...ahem...help.

    Keith
     
  4. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    The individual Guards currently cannot be called into Federal service by the President without specific approval from the state governors. The President must ask, he cannot demand.

    Does this new Presidential Order change this? According to the wording, it doesn't sound like it, but if they can read abortion, welfare payments and hate crimes into the Consitiution, they can pretty much do anything they want to.

    Keith
     
  5. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    "they can pretty much do anything they want to."

    They pretty much are doing what they want.

    jj
     
  6. therifleman

    therifleman kennewick Member

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    Maybe after this is all organized the first order of business will be to man the southern borders and establish training bases at regular intervals, the border states have been screaming for federal assistance on the illegal immigration problems for years but the feds could not use the US military within its own borders. Anyone remember what Catch 22 means?
     
  7. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Save the bombardier? Oh, wait...