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Federalization of Local Sheriffs: Ugg! 5/18/15

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  1. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    FEDERALIZATION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD REMOVE BULWARK FOR SECOND AMENDMENT

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    by AWR HAWKINS18 May 201574


    The call to federalize law enforcement departments and offices around the country was made more than once after Officer Darren Wilson shot Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, in August 2014.
    Following that incident, President Obama asked a group of individuals to prepare a study on 21st Century Policing that includes measures by which law enforcement could be federalized.

    Not surprisingly, many of the study’s findings and suggestions have nothing to do with the details or evidence surrounding Officer Wilson and Michael Brown but read like a social justice wish list for minorities, lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgenders, and protesters who riot in response to half-truths propagated by race-hucksters stirring the pot in Ferguson, New York City, and Baltimore.

    It must be noted that one stark result of such federalization would be the successful and quiet removal of opposition to gun control via new constraints on sheriffs around the country who currently enjoy relative freedom from extensive federal input and oversight. As we have seen from the Sandy Hook Elementary attack until now, the strongest voices against federal gun control have often been sheriffs in states where gun rights reign supreme. These same sheriffs have also pushed back against anti-Second Amendment legislators in their own states by pledging their refusal to enforce new gun laws, should such laws be enacted.

    Federalizing sheriffs would effectively moot this opposition.

    The Interim Report of The President’s Task Force on 21st Century Policing was released in March 2015. It is approximately 109 pages long–including appendices and notes–and outlines ways in which law enforcement can be federalized and ways in which law enforcement can work harder to win the favor of minorities and others.

    Here are some of the suggestions put forth in the study:

    1.2.1 ACTION ITEM: The U.S. Department of Justice should develop and disseminate case studies that provide examples where past injustices were publicly acknowledged by law enforcement agencies in a manner to help build community trust.

    1.8.1 ACTION ITEM: The Federal Government should create a Law Enforcement Diversity Initiative designed to help communities diversify law enforcement departments to reflect the demographics of the community

    1.8.4 ACTION ITEM: Discretionary federal funding for law enforcement programs could be influenced by that department’s efforts to improve their diversity and cultural and linguistic responsiveness.

    2.2.4 ACTION ITEM: Policies on use of force should also require agencies to collect, maintain, and report data to the Federal Government on all officer-involved shootings, whether fatal or nonfatal, as well as any in-custody death.

    2.7.2 ACTION ITEM: The Federal Government should create a mechanism for investigating complaints and issuing sanctions regarding the inappropriate use of equipment and tactics during mass demonstrations

    2.8 RECOMMENDATION: Some form of civilian oversight of law enforcement is important in order to strengthen trust with the community. Every community should define the appropriate form and structure of civilian oversight to meet the needs of that community.

    2.8.1 ACTION ITEM: The U.S. Department of Justice, through its research arm, the National Institute of Justice (NIJ), should expand its research agenda to include civilian oversight.

    3.1.1 ACTION ITEM: The Federal Government should support the development and delivery of training to help law enforcement agencies learn, acquire, and implement technology tools and tactics that are consistent with the best practices of 21st century policing.

    3.3.1 ACTION ITEM: As part of the process for developing best practices, the U.S. Department of Justice should consult with civil rights and civil liberties organizations, as well as law enforcement research groups and other experts, concerning the constitutional issues that can arise as a result of the use of new technologies.

    3.6 RECOMMENDATION: The Federal Government should support the development of new “less than lethal” technology to help control combative suspects.

    5.1 RECOMMENDATION: The Federal Government should support the development of partnerships with training facilities across the country to promote consistent standards for high quality training and establish training innovation hubs.

    5.3.1 ACTION ITEM: Recognizing that strong, capable leadership is required to create cultural transformation, the U.S. Department of Justice should invest in developing learning goals and model curricula/training for each level of leadership

    5.13 RECOMMENDATION: The U.S. Department of Justice should support the development and implementation of improved Field Training Officer programs.

    These are just a few of the many suggestions, but they provide insight into how federalization would look.

    For instance, note ACTION ITEM 1.8.4, which makes clear that the flow of federal funding to departments and offices would be tied to whether said departments and agencies comported with federal requirements on certain matters. Where, in such requirements, would wiggle room remain for sheriffs or small police departments to continue to live and work in ways reflective of the small communities in they live?

    Would Oregon Sheriffs like Glenn Palmer (Grant County) or David Daniel (Josephine County) still get federal funding if they refused to enforce gun control, as they are currently refusing to enforce the new controls contained Senate Bill 941? Would then-Weld County, Colorado Sheriff John Cooke have received funding after he came out against the Democrat push for gun control in his state in 2013? How about Jackson County, Kentucky, Sheriff Denny Peyman, who stood less than a month after Sandy Hook to say his county would not recognize any new gun controls handed down by the feds?

    Peyman said: “My office will not comply with any federal action which violates the United States Constitution or the Kentucky Constitution which I swore uphold.” Do you think Peyman’s office would get federal funding and equipment, or would the office not quietly dry up and fade away?

    These are questions that must be asked, especially in light of the fact that the study on 21st Century Policing is introduced by claiming the National Sheriffs Association supported Senator Jim Webb’s (D-VA) push to create a National Criminal Justice Commission in 2009. That commission would have existed to take a “continuous look at criminal justice reform in the context of broad societal issues… [that have] never faded from public consciousness.”

    Part of that “continuous look” would have been to watch and see how well law enforcement departments and offices were comporting with federal directives and offer “evidence-based recommendations for reform” to bring everyone in line.

    Follow AWR Hawkins on Twitter @AWRHawkins. Reach him directly at awrhawkins@breitbart.co
     
  2. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Your local Sheriff is the law of the land.
    They are the ONLY constitutionally approved law enforcement and cannot be federalized.
    So unless they re write the Constitution and get it ratified before congress the Sheriff has the final say in the county.


    PS:
    The Sheriffs are the only ones besides the Governor of a state who can call out the Organized (NG) and Irregular militia's (State defense force's)

    The President does not even have that capacity by law !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  3. U201491

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    Any possibility of that Hitlarization of LE needs to be castrated from every direction possible.

    Yeahhhh that's how I really feel !
     
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  4. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What's Hitler got to do with it?

    We are heading down the road to Marxist/Stalinist ideology, 20 Million dead known for sure
    40 Million missing un-accounted for after the war.

    You are for the state or else the firing squad, if you cant be re educated in the gulage
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    His SS/Youth and all The Police inducted into his military, but yes, you are correct in the Communist Marxist reality that is here and growing fast now. It has began in earnest since the 60's and the hard push began in 1968. At first they hid and now they are blatant and in your face. Time for a "face lift" and removal.
     
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    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    That only happened at the very end of the war when they started the Volkssturm.
    My Grandpa Bob was 10 during the battle of Berlin,His group was led by a Pastry maker.

    Communism/Bolshevism is the worst threat to life on this planet we have ever had.
     
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  7. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Sheriff's are local control of law enforcement and voted in by the public. No way would the public allow our law enforcement to be run by some Washington bureaucrat we have no control over.
     
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  8. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    A Nationalized Police Force? Herr Obama has been wanting this for awhile.
     
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  9. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Yeah they would have to replace the sitting sheriff with a federal employee and people who would folow his orders.
    I don't see this going very well. And it won't go the way of the urban yutes and their riots
    Now you would be talking about a bunch of white folks with guns
     
  10. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    If you are preparation minded time to rethink the future possibilities.
     
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    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I have just moved in to this house. I was deciding on what projects would take priority and such.
    I had to sell too many weapons to do this whole thing
    1st priority is to ad more weapons back to the arsenal. And some ammo of course
    I'm hoping they will run trials at small LOE offices on the east coast first,before they move to small middle of no where towns like this.
     
  12. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    At least 25 different LEO's from different agencies in WA State get together and talk about this kind of situation , and others.

    The majority of them want to be on the right side of things when/if SHTF.

    They don't want to be the ones in the cross hair's of the good guy's and are willing to take a stand for the Constitution.
     
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    Sheriff David Clarke: Law Enforcement Officers ‘At A Tipping Point’

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    In the wake of recent events, law enforcement officers are at a “tipping point” that could spell dangerous consequences for the communities they serve, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke testified before a House panel Tuesday.

    “We’re at a tipping point and it is something that I expressed not too long after what happened in Ferguson, Missouri, about the psyche of the police officer who watches these things go on, just like anybody else does, and the constant bashing and maligning of the profession is starting to take its toll,” Clarke said at a House Judiciary Committee hearing examining police strategies.

    Clarke explained that he spent last week in the D.C. area for National Police Week. There he spoke with law enforcement officers from across the country and said he heard a similar message from each.

    “The one common theme I heard from them, first of all, their mindset is they’re beleaguered right now. But the common theme that I heard is, ‘You know, sheriff, I don’t know if I want to continue to take that extra step any more, because I don’t want to be the next Darren Wilson,’” he said, referencing the Ferguson, Missouri police officer who shot Michael Brown.

    According to Clarke, the result of the backlash against law enforcement will be an erosion of “self-initiated” police work.

    “It’s not the call for service. When an officer gets sent to a call for service something already happened. It’s reactive. The crime already occurred. But the self-initiated policing is when that officer, that man or woman uses their experience, their sixth sense, if you will, their street sense that criminal activity may be afoot,” he said.

    It is in those instances, Clarke explained, that police find “the guns that are being used to transport to and from drive-by shootings, you’re going to find prohibited persons with firearms, you’re going to find drugs, you’re going to find people wanted on serious felony warrants through self-initiated policing.”

    “When that starts to fall off — there will be a lag time. This isn’t going to happen overnight. The cops in this country aren’t going to quit. but over time when they start to worry they look and they see that suspicious vehicle or they see that suspicious individual and say, maybe not today, I don’t want this thing to go haywire on me and next thing I know I’m one of those officers that — who becomes a household name in America. that is going to a lag time, ok. I don’t like to create hysteria but over time I think it’s going to have an effect on crime rates in those communities that need this sort of policing the most and that is our minority communities,” he added.
     
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    They will cave when tanks and machine guns are offered to them.

    And vast amounts of cash.
     
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  15. Just Jim

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    Baltimore has had about 34 murders in the last 30 days, cops have just backed off and let them kill each other. When the cops stop doing their jobs the feds will take over.
     
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    That's a good point.But when the criminal element starts killing itself in large numbers,that does save court costs...oh wait,then there isn't prisoners!:eek:
    That's big money lost !
    So all the feds have to do is tell the media to villainize any cop who kills someone and the process starts
    Cops won't enter shooting zones,they will just stand and watch.
    And the ones willing to do that job will be recruited by the feds to be in their force
     
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    BoringCruffler Boring, OR Member 2016 Volunteer

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    And no way would the citizens of Oregon ever allow a direct infringement of KBA or for firearms to be registered....

    Oh... wait...
     
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    Ya you are probably right, they sure don't stand up for their rights so why would they care who is running the law.. Murica, land of the once free and home of the who gives a crap.:D
     
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    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    get rid of public employee unions including police unions and so many of the perceived problems with police/citizen relations go away.
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Brownshirts. Coming to a voting booth near you. I mean someone has to make sure the people are voting for the right party.