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Federal LE Tactical HST .45's in stock

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Doc In UPlace, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Federal LE Tactical HST .45's in stock now at ammunition to go. I wouldn't wait to order because this stuff is more popular than syrup at a pancake festival.
     
  2. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the tip :thumbup:
     
  3. slickx45

    slickx45 Seattle - Eastside Active Member

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    Thanks for the heads up, I just placed an order! :)

    Richard
     
  4. JumpWing

    JumpWing NK WA Member

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    Excellent! I wish they had the standard pressure available as well.
     
  5. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    How are these guys to deal with? They're currently saying it will be 9-12 business days before they'll get to your order. I'm having flash-backs to my PMag orders...
     
  6. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    How does it compare to this stuff?

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  7. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    HST is a bit better than the Hydra
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I'm going to be stocking the Federal Law Enforcement and Speer Gold Dot ammo.

    To bad I don't know anything about it:laugh::laugh:
     
  9. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    HST has the largest expansion and weight retention of pretty much any hollow point. HST and gold dot are pretty much the best. But its only marginal over other brands.
     
  10. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I need to take this stuff out shooting.
    I have the HST .40 in stock and the .45 Hydra-Shok.

    Next week I get 9mm, .40, and .45 Gold Dot, and more HST(don't know the calibers yet).
     
  11. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    They have been pretty accurate for their time frame estimates. Sometimes a day or two sooner than the estimate.

    I've only had one instance when they sold out of a product before they got to my order for it. In that case they wrote to advise that there wasn't enough to ship and they promptly credited my card along with the proper shipping percentage. They then shipped the rest of my order.

    They answer emails fairly quickly and have been a good source for rare and other hard-to-get items.

    :thumbup:
     
  12. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Good to hear - I've been looking for some other basics (like good buckshot rounds) and there don't appear to be many local store options. They at least list it as available.

    How am I going to prop up the local economy with my ammo purchases if there's none to buy?? :laugh:
     
  13. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Fill some water jugs for ballistic testing.
     
  14. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Some of their special-purpose munitons are from ALS, who make some very good products.

    I know, the local ammo scene is hurtin'.
     
  15. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    Why in the heck doesn't somebody take advantage of this demand and start building ammunition production equipment, or somehow get in on the rage..? Not enough ammunition is being produced to meet this demand, what the heck is wrong with people..?
     
  16. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Far too much overhead and cost of materials. And quite a few remanufactures are stepping up to the plate, such as OMC.

    Also ammo can be found at many places online for good deals, and at bimart (depending on the sales)
     
  17. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    Capitalism fail, the demand is there - the prices will go down.
     
  18. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    But it is too risky of a business venture with current climate. Its a short term market with high start up costs. Can you imagine how much the insurance policies are for such a business alone. By the time you paid off the start up costs, the demand will be gone, or the profit margin too low.

    There are quite a few small producers popping up everywhere, but I haven't seen any of them become successful, mostly because people would rather buy a brand they trust, or the producer cannot make the required volume with their current equipment.
     
  19. Dutchy556

    Dutchy556 Bend, OR Member

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    HST > Hydra-Shok

    Newer generation bullet. Supposed to expand bigger, more reliably, lessened chance (like none) of core jacket separation.

    From testing results I've seen and rounds I've recovered this seems to be true.

    I pass on hydra shok. HST or Ranger-T for me. Not that hydra-shoks don't kill people but it's old bullet technology. Everybody's heard of em and they have a mean rep though, they have that going for them.

    http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

    Note the Hydra-Shoks don't even make the list. Still way better than generic JHPs or FMJs or what have you but I'll take every advantage I can get in a gunfight.


    Example of testing in which Hydra-Shoks failed to expand through denim and zipped right through:
    http://firearmstactical.com/test_data/45acp/fed45-230hs-g30.htm

    Bare gel #s look great, denim covered illustrates the problem though...
     
  20. wichaka

    wichaka Wa State Well-Known Member

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    ATK put in several new lines to get the product out faster. But the tide is turning, it's starting to turn now. In the coming months you'll see more ammo on the shelves. Have some patience.

    As for Hydra-Shok....the design hasn't been upgraded in almost 20 years. You'll see it getting phased out in the coming years.