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FBI Reports Huge Decrease In Murders As Firearm, Ammunition & "Large" Mag. Sales Soar

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ZeroRing, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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  2. TonsOfOregonBrass

    TonsOfOregonBrass Sandy, OR Active Member

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  3. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I am guessing that the response will be *crickets*.

    Why cover something if it doesn't get you closer to your goal?
     
  4. elsie

    elsie Way over there on the left Well-Known Member

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    As nice as it is to see more firearms sold, correlation does not mean causation. There are probably a significant number of factors involved.

    elsie
     
  5. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No correlation does not mean causation, but it becomes very hard to make the case that selling more things like high cap clips and "assault" rifles will lead to "BLOOD IN THE STREETS" or similar related hysteria.
     
  6. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    The MSM has preached for years that correlation means causation; guns are bad... get guns, stop crime...

    I say that this is empirical evidence that lots more guns don't cause an increase in crime.

    I agree that this alone doesn't prove that an increase in guns causes a decrease in crime.
     
  7. fuhr52

    fuhr52 Lane County. Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If selling more guns causes more crime, then selling more cars causes more drunk driving. As long as our criminal justice system is going to treat criminals as victims instead of criminals, crime will continue, guns or no guns. Time to lock them up no matter how crowded it gets.
     
  8. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    Nothing infuriates me more than you "gun people" talking with common sense. Why can't you just realize that if all the guns were taken away that there would be no more crime?? I mean, if the criminals can't get access to guns legally then they won't be able to get gones period.
     
  9. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah! And if we would just give up our guns, the government would give up theirs too!

    I am having a gun turn in event at my house tonight. Every person that brings me an evil firearm will get a $50 gift card and a cookie!
     
  10. sbryson21

    sbryson21 Nampa, ID Member

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    You had me at cookie, keep your gift card. I'll be there in an hour.:rofl1:
     
  11. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    You guys don't get it. I'm the only one who can be trusted with guns. You must all turn your guns over to me. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  12. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    You take the south of Oregon, I'll take the north.;)
     
  13. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    hope u have lots of cookies
     
  14. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Then this could be one of the few things that obama got right in 2009. Even though not his intention, he caused millions of people to buy guns and ammo. :confused: :D
     
  15. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    I would LOVE to know how he feels about that little "unintended consequence" of his hope and chains election?? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
     
  16. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    "Hope and chains." :laugh: :laugh: I hadn't heard that one. :D
     
  17. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    It's far more appropriate than that "other" saying. I want to hurl every time I hear it. :banghead:
     
  18. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Good one Zero, even had the wife laughing..:laugh:
     
  19. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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    Do you realize,or rather have you put any deep thought to the fact that, our anti gun president created the greatest surge in gun and ammo sales in recent times,that coincidentally coincides with the largest drop in murders in about 50 years.Although it proves nothing, it lends itself to a new train of thought.
    Did Obama accidentally become an unwilling ally to our cause?
     
  20. LogicBomb

    LogicBomb Grants Pass Active Member

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    well if you were up to no good where would you do it? in a place that was full of rednecks or SanfranSISSYco?