National FBI gun checks surge 30% amid Biden, Bloomberg gun grab threats

[awshoot]

Investigated for what? What would he be charged with? Machining a receiver does not make someone a manufacturer. ...

If a person wants to machine and sell lowers, they must get a license or face consequences both financial and potentially criminal.

Lawyers get rich on people thinking "who will find out?" or from those who fail to do a cost/benefit analysis when the law is vague and subject to differential application.

You might try this: Can I Sell or Give My Homemade Gun to Another Person?

If you read that without trying to hear what you want to hear, what you will read is "it depends". When faced with such a circumstance, the prudent thing to do is keep the lowers for yourself. Selling them is penny wise and pound foolish.

 

[pietro beretta]

Can't eat .22lr.

You can sure as hell trade it, I know I did for components during one of the ammo shortages. I didn't need bread thenthen but who knows, maybe ill start carrying some .22lr 9mm and 45acp as denomination for some food staples.

 

[CountryGent]

Meh, we're set for the arsenal, and don't see any need, with the possible of exception of a replacement I'm noodling about today. In fact I've been selling a small number of guns lately as part of a realignment with life changes in general. I've sold four in the last week or so and at least one last month.

 

[wired]

If a person wants to machine and sell lowers, they must get a license or face consequences both financial and potentially criminal.

Lawyers get rich on people thinking "who will find out?" or from those who fail to do a cost/benefit analysis when the law is vague and subject to differential application.

You might try this: Can I Sell or Give My Homemade Gun to Another Person?

If you read that without trying to hear what you want to hear, what you will read is "it depends". When faced with such a circumstance, the prudent thing to do is keep the lowers for yourself. Selling them is penny wise and pound foolish.

You must have read a different article than I did. What the '68 GCA says and what I read in that article is that you cannot build a gun from a home built receiver for the purpose of selling it. That is true. You can build one and sell it but you cannot build one with the intent of selling it. And guess what? You cannot build a gun from a receiver you bought at a store with the purpose of selling it. Its the same thing. Even a type 01 FFL holder cannot assemble a AR-15 for the purpose of selling it with a store bought receiver. They do it all the time though. The 68 GCA does not differentiate in any way from what you can do with a store bought receiver and what you can build yourself. The fact that you foolishly wasted hours machining a receiver losing money in the process when you could have bought a store bought one for less money makes zero difference . You can't do it for resale if that is your intent and you can sell it if resale wasnt your purpose ( intent ) . You seem to be of the opinion there is some difference between a home machined receiver and a store bought receiver in the eyes of the law. That is not true. The same rules apply to both and the same restrictions apply to both. The fact you machined it makes no difference whatsoever. A title 1 receiver is a title 1 receiver except for the fact that the one built by the licensed manufacturer is required to have manufacturers marks and serial numbers and if assembled by a 07 FFL holder is required to have excise tax paid. Otherwise same thing when it comes to selling .

You might think it prudent to not use that home built receiver but the law does not make any distinction between a firearm built on a home built receiver and one that was bought as a receiver from an FFL holder.

 

[rickys2]

people don't have to buy food water and all that stuff. because most the people who stock up on food ,TP and water are anti gun. So the lazy people who didn't buy a thing, but they own a gun will take your food and water. I stock up many years ago on ammo and guns. I have enough food and water for my family and dog. Come knocking on my door to steal or hurt my family and I will gladly feed you a special lead sandwich.

 

[awshoot]

You must have read a different article than I did. ...

Perhaps. Let me focus your attention:

The key in determining whether a homemade gun can be legally sold or transferred rests with knowing the intent of the maker when the gun was first created. [i.e., IT DEPENDS] Relevant factors in determining the transferor's intent may include: the length of time between the creation of the firearm and its transfer; the specific reason for the sale or transfer; and whether the maker of the firearm frequently sells or transfers homemade firearms. For example, a time lapse between creation and sale of many years, a reason for sale that has no sinister overtones, and a transfer that is one-in-a-lifetime for the transferor, would indicate an original intent to keep the gun. By contrast, quickly transferring a gun right after its creation, to someone who could not legally possess a firearm, by someone who regularly transfers such guns, would indicate a lack of intent to keep the gun.

 

[wired]

Perhaps. Let me focus your attention:

Listen, The exact same restrictions apply to a firearm built on a store bought receiver. You cannot build a firearm from a store bought receiver for the purpose of selling it. That is all the article says. The law does NOT differentiate between what you can do with a store bought receiver and with a home made receiver. If you take that article and remove the word homemade everywhere it pops up it still is true because there is no difference in the eyes of the federal government between a home made and a manufacturer built receiver in any way the ways you can legally dispose of either are exactly the same.

Ironically lets say that you have a gun that was built on a home made receiver and you want to sell it but some guy who doesnt know firearms law talks you into taking your parts off and putting them on a $49 PSA or Anderson receiver and you sell it like that . Guess what? You just manufactured a firearm with the intent of selling it. No soup for you.

 

[pietro beretta]

because most the people who stock up on food ,TP and water are anti gun.

You do know there is an active SRA presence up here in the PNW right? Good luck with that theory.

 

[CountryGent]

You do know there is an active SRA presence up here in the PNW right? Good luck with that theory.

SRA? I'm pretty sure I know what this is, but curious what you are referring to. Thanks.

 

[pietro beretta]

SRA?

I'll just call it the lefts NRA - Socialist Rifle Association. I hadn't known there was such a thing or the the Liberal Gun Club even existed. There are more liberal leaning folk in these parts that love there guns as well.

 

[wired]

SRA? I'm pretty sure I know what this is, but curious what you are referring t

I'll just call it the lefts NRA - Socialist Rifle Association. I hadn't known there was such a thing or the the Liberal Gun Club even existed. There are more liberal leaning folk in these parts that love there guns as well.

Hard to engage in class warfare without firearms.

 

[CountryGent]

I'll just call it the lefts NRA - Socialist Rifle Association. I hadn't known there was such a thing or the the Liberal Gun Club even existed. There are more liberal leaning folk in these parts that love there guns as well.

That was the one I figured you were referencing. Probably the less I say about them the better.

 

[FortRock]

Wow! Didn't realize I would get such a swift and thorough response. And I do appreciate it! Now. A little more info. The owner is totally invisible. Not really even a gun guy. He inherited a room full of goodies he didn't even know his dad was into. Wish I could pry loose a couple of the M1A's. The reason I have posited this query is because he is going to need help dispersing or disposing of this equipment. All information here will be shared with him to help him decide what to do. Thanks!

 

[eklarsen]

 

[ZigZagZeke]

My wife's friend works for the OSP in the background check section. She was offered OT this week. Checks are up 30%.

 

[aksu747]

My wife's friend works for the OSP in the background check section. She was offered OT this week. Checks are up 30%.

They are up way more than that, I work at Cabelas. Today before I left my shift, at 6pm the OSP background check QUE was in the 750's, which is 100 higher than it was yesterday,when I started both shifts it was just under 400.
Highest I've seen it ever before this Corona Virus Panic buying craze was 185, that sure is much larger uptick than 30%.
The panic buying has been getting worse by the day since the 13th.

 

[Commonsense]

Biden wants to outlaw 9mm handguns and (idiot) your AR 14
Do away with alll fossil fuels, so farm work & delivery's by?????