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Family Firearms Passed Down

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by vmkeith, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. vmkeith

    vmkeith Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    Visiting the folks down in Nevada, and my dad gave me a couple of firearms that have been in the family for quite awhile. Unfortunately, I'm on my parents computer and don't have pictures...YET...but they are coming.

    1. Colt 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver: Later model, manufactured sometime in the 1870s. All serial numbers are matching and all markings are original and legitimate. The gun is in rough shape and needs some restoration work done to it...not sure if I will, it all depends on the current value of the gun and the cost of restoration. At a minimum, I think it would be cool to get it into proper working order.

    Markings
    Top Barrel Flat: ADDRESS COL. SAML COLT NEW-YORK U.S. AMERICA
    Left Front Side of Frame: Colts Patent
    Left Side Trigger Guard: .36 Cal
    Cylinder: Colts Patent No XXXX (last 4 of serial number)
    Barrel, Frame, and Trigger Guard: Serial Number
    Butt Strap Stamping: Serial Number

    There are more markings that aren't visible without some field stripping, but I'll wait on those.

    2. J. Stevens Arms & Tool Company Single Shot .22 Long Rifle: Also known as the "Old Stevens Favorite", but still researching. I did find out my grandfather traded a set of spurs for this when he was 12, in 1938. It does need a new extractor, every now and then my grandfather and dad had to use a pocket knife to pull the spent casing out. Best guess for manufacturing date, based on barrel markings is 1894-1920.

    Markings
    Top Right Barrel: J. Stevens A & T Co., Chicopee Falls Mass USA PAT. APR 17 94
    Top Left Barrel: 22 Long Rifle
    Bottom Stock Support: Serial Number

    3. J. Stevens Arms Company Single Shot Break-Open 410 Shotgun: Best guess for manufacturing date, based on receiver markings is 1920-1940s. Still researching.

    Markings
    Top Left Barrel: Selected Forged Steel
    Left Side Receiver: Stevens, The Fully Guaranteed Single Gun
    Right Side Receiver: Circled 21, J. Stevens Arms Company, Chicopee Falls Mass USA, Made in USA

    It'll be fun to restore both the .22 and the 410, as the research that I have done shows they are of little monetary value. But I think my dad would love to see these restored since he learned to shoot with both of them. The 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver is a different story. I've got to find the value of this gun before I do anything, but both my dad and I would love to get this one into working order though.
     
  2. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I love the family connection. Perhaps someday you will pass them on to a child of your own.
     
  3. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    That's really cool. I like that your grandfather traded a set of spurs for one of them.

    I have my grandfather's gun & hope to pass it down to my son someday. Family firearms are cherished items.
     
  4. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    PLEASE DO NOT do anything to the Colt you can only hurt its value. No replacement parts nothing in many cases even some cleaning can hurt the collector value of a handgun like this.

    but of course it is yours.

    if you want to shoot it $220.00 will buy you a very nice reproduction to shoot.

    for instance

    Cabela's: Pietta Model 1851 Navy .36 Caliber Revolver
     
  5. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Please don't touch the Colt 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver before you have it appraised. It could be worth a LOT of money, but even cleaning it may destroy some of the value.

    Note the price here.
     
  6. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    As for the Stevens Favorite, my dad had one in about 1910 and it was truly his favorite rifle. He fired at least 500 rounds a week through it. He always wished he'd kept it.
     
  7. vmkeith

    vmkeith Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    I have no plans to do anything with the Colt 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver until I have it appraised and I discuss my options with an expect. The gun is in very, very rough shape...it was definitely a working gun, it even has 14 hash marks across the top of the barrel that means the number of kills...at least that's what the "Family Lore" says...sounds cool even it's false.

    As for both of the J.Stevens guns, those I will restore for my dad...it's his request, and I want them to stay in the family for a long, long time.
     
  8. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I understand wanting to restore the J. Stevens guns. I had this one restored in memory of my grandfather:

    RRBRestore-RtFullUpsm.jpg
     
  9. vmkeith

    vmkeith Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    That's a nice looking rifle...good job on the restoration. Did you do it yourself, or have it done?
     
  10. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    I had Jim Dubell at Delta Gun Shop in Colville, WA do the metal work. He did the exterior cleanup, case coloring, bluing, barrel liner and rechamber for .357 Mag. I did some of the wood work and he did the oil finish. I can't say enough good stuff about Jim and his work. He's a master gun maker, specializing in custom rifles and metal work. He does a lot of restoration work on old firearms. It ended up costing me about what Pedersoli wants for one of their butt ugly reproductions.
     
  11. vmkeith

    vmkeith Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    Here's a pic of the guns my dad gave me. Top to bottom: J.Stevens single shot 410 shotgun, J.Stevens single shot .22 rifle, Colt 1851 Navy Percussion Revolver.

    KeithGuns.jpg
     
  12. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    Old guns are cool and the family connection is priceless.
    Mike
     
  13. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    From what I can see in the picture I would not call that Colt to be in "rough" condition. "Rough" would be visible rust, no finish, and parts missing or frozen. That's the condition my rolling block above was in when I inherited it. Can you post some better pictures of it?
     
  14. vmkeith

    vmkeith Vancouver, Washington, United States Member

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    Here's a few more pictures.

    Colt1851Navy-Grip.jpg

    Colt1851Navy-HammerCylinder.jpg

    Colt1851Navy-CylinderTrigger.jpg

    Colt1851Navy-BarrelPowderRod1.jpg

    Colt1851Navy-BarrelPowderRod2.jpg
     
  15. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    Looks a little worse close up. Still, it's not so bad that I'd do anything with it before having it appraised.