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Everett, WA - man stops man threatening to kill woman

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by ATCclears, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    Gunshot stops man threatening to kill woman in Everett | The Today File | Seattle Times

    Police say a bystander shot his pistol to scare off a man threatening to kill a woman with a knife in Everett this afternoon.

    The bystander told Everett police he’d ordered a 48-year-old man chasing and threatening to kill the woman with a knife to stop his attack near the intersection of 34th Street and Lombard Avenue.

    Concerned that the woman might be killed if the man didn’t stop chasing her, the 61-year-old Arlington man fired one shot into the air around 4:30 p.m.

    The man with the knife then stopped chasing the woman and was held by several people nearby until officers arrived to take him into custody. He was booked into Snohomish County Jail for unlawful possession of a dangerous weapon.

    The woman fled the scene and has not been identified, according to Everett police. Detectives are still investigating who she is and where she may have gone.

    Police interviewed the bystander after the incident, and no charges are expected to filed against him, according to a release from the Everett Police Department.
     
  2. moose

    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

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    He missed. Shooting into the air is rather irresponsible too, what goes up, will come down.

    I've always thought, if I have to draw my weapon, I've already made the decision to ventilate someone. Never bluff, never threaten, never engage in conversation.
     
  3. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    I agree that firing into the air is risky since that bullet is going to land somewhere.

    We probably don't know all the details. Perhaps he drew his pistol and yelled, and it wasn't enough. Perhaps he was surrounded by asphalt such that firing into the dirt/grass wasn't feasible.

    Peter
     
  4. moose

    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

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    Yell and scream and threaten all you want THEN draw.

    As they say, talk the talk THEN walk the walk.


    ETA: One of my fav movie lines is from The Fifth Element: "Anyone else want to negoiciate?"
     
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    notchman Kitsap Peninsula, WA Member

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    "Where did he learn how to negotiate like that?"
     
  6. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    I say, if you need to fire your weapon, you need a backstop..the BG makes teh best available in that type of situation, except!! when there are a lot of people around that might get hit if you miss.
     
  7. accessbob

    accessbob Molalla, OR 2A Supporter

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    There are situations in which you might draw but not fire. To be locked into the frame of mind that to draw means to fire is irresponsible at best and could leave you in prison at worst.
     
  8. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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  9. moose

    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely, if the need for self defence or the defence of others abates (i.e. they run away), then continuing is criminal. My point is once you draw, dont screw around.
     
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  10. Bob D

    Bob D Oregon, Cascades Well-Known Member

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    True. A lot can happen in 1.5 seconds. :)
     
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    Hook686 Northern California Active Member

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    Why would you draw if you have not already determined it to be a lethal situation ? If you have already determined your life is on the line, why would not be prepared to shoot ? Either your life (or another person's) is in immediate danger of being ended, or it is not. If you have time to analyze, it seems to me it is too soon to draw.
     
  12. Bob D

    Bob D Oregon, Cascades Well-Known Member

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    He said "situations in which you might draw and not fire" you say "why would you not be prepared to shoot."

    I don't think you guys are disagreeing. You should never draw your weapon without intending to pull the trigger, but like I said, a lot can happen in 1.5 seconds. The situation may have changed.
    "some situations where you might."
     
  13. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I am glad the cops don't fire every time they draw their weapons.
     
  14. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Portland Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Holding out your gun in many situations may act as a deterrent. You need to asses each confrontation on a situational basis. There is no cookie cutter way to defend yourself or others.
     
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    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

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    Deterrent to what? Someone realistically threatening to kill you or someone else? Thats really the only reason to have your weapon out.
     
  16. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    GAH! Never, never, never, never, NEVER fire a warning shot. That's just asking for trouble.