Poll: Ever considered putting in a fallout shelter?

[E4mafia]

wow according to the vote only one person has a shelter ready to roll.

Come on NWFA I thought ya'll was prepared for everything!

 

[CountryGent]

I've instructed my family to run towards the blast. Maranatha.

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I find this notion most perplexing and I must be missing something. I would be interested in a fallout shelter to protect my family from radioactive particulate, as I love them so very much, and I have a duty to preserve our family line. Heading towards where the H-bombs are landing is counterintuitive. So, don't understand.

 

[teflon6string]

One Giant Leap, a book by Charles Fishman, details the gargantuan single-goal effort and impact (scientific, political and cultural) of the space race. As I devour chapter two, he outlines the development of nuclear weapons and frequent testing in Nevada. Fascinating, easy to digest info even for the non-scientific.

And it prompted me to look...

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The nuclear powers have conducted more than 2,000 nuclear test explosions (numbers are approximate, as some test results have been disputed): United States: 1,054 tests by official count (involving at least 1,149 devices). 219 were atmospheric tests as defined by the CTBT.

Of those 1,054 US tests, 188 were done 1951-58, averaging 24 a year for 8 straight years.

Add various power generating mishaps here and abroad to the grand total, and I find it hard to imagine eating, drinking or breathing anything ever again that is not tainted to some degree.

 

[Stomper]

Dont forget your iodine tablets!

90% of the radiation you take into your body will attach itself to the iodine in your body. When you bring in New Iodine, you flush out Old Radioactive Iodine.

If I was more knowledgable, I could tell you when to take it and what dosage....but it has been too many years. Maybe someone else has that info.

Actually, the iodine is absorbed and stored in your thyroid and "fills it up" so radioactive absorption doesn't happen. Your thyroid glands are where the radioactive isotopes will go to work first.

 

[Member 5605]

I find this notion most perplexing and I must be missing something. I would be interested in a fallout shelter to protect my family from radioactive particulate, as I love them so very much, and I have a duty to preserve our family line. Heading towards where the H-bombs are landing is counterintuitive. So, don't understand.

Quality of life versus quantity of life.

 

[MannyGlocks]

I'd rather have a tree house.

 

[CountryGent]

Quality of life versus quantity of life.

I think I understand. For me and my household, I have no such choice; I am in the link in the chain now. My father and grandfather were the links before me, my son and my daughter links after me. Well wishes to you and yours.

 

[Projectile]

I've lost intereset to this game in less than 2-3 weeks I remember, but a nice thing to try if you fun of fallout 2 and 1 parts as me imo

 

[MannyGlocks]

Pro,

What?

 

[CountryGent]

I'm not following either.

 

[zenbreath]

He is talking about Fallout, the video game, not radioactive particles from a nuclear explosion.

 

[gmerkt]

I lived through Cold War Part One, remember going with my family to look at above-ground model bomb shelters. That was circa 1950's. My dad was an air force officer, I remember leafing though his training manuals from early in the Kennedy administration with the emphasis on counter insurgency. Which at that time meant, Laos and Vietnam. I survived that too. Now my string is getting short. I'm not too worried about death by nuclear warfare. True, it's still a possibility. But the magnitude of the forces involved make me feel pretty small and helpless. We live in the Puget Sound area, likely on various target lists. I've sat on Jetty Island with my granddaughter and looked across at the USS Abraham Lincoln at the dock, knowing that at that instant it was a MIRV target on a list. Not to mention the Boeing plant, a naval air station to the north, a nuclear submarine base to the west, a naval shipyard to the SW, an army post and air force base to the south, etc. Living in a targeted area, I doubt surviving the blast and fallout would ever find life as we now know it the same again. My guess is it would be pretty grim for survivors. So my circumstances suggest a 9mm pistol would more valuable than a shelter.

 

[CountryGent]

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He is talking about Fallout, the video game, not radioactive particles from a nuclear explosion.

Oh, it is a video game. OK, his statement makes more sense now. How that would be germane to this discussion, I'm still not clear. However, thank you for the explanation.

 

[zenbreath]

I lived through Cold War Part One, remember going with my family to look at above-ground model bomb shelters. That was circa 1950's. My dad was an air force officer, I remember leafing though his training manuals from early in the Kennedy administration with the emphasis on counter insurgency. Which at that time meant, Laos and Vietnam. I survived that too. Now my string is getting short. I'm not too worried about death by nuclear warfare. True, it's still a possibility. But the magnitude of the forces involved make me feel pretty small and helpless. We live in the Puget Sound area, likely on various target lists. I've sat on Jetty Island with my granddaughter and looked across at the USS Abraham Lincoln at the dock, knowing that at that instant it was a MIRV target on a list. Not to mention the Boeing plant, a naval air station to the north, a nuclear submarine base to the west, a naval shipyard to the SW, an army post and air force base to the south, etc. Living in a targeted area, I doubt surviving the blast and fallout would ever find life as we now know it the same again. My guess is it would be pretty grim for survivors. So my circumstances suggest a 9mm pistol would more valuable than a shelter.

I understand your point, but I disagree.

"While I breathe, I Fight!"

I've done the math. In the Corps, I was on NBC training many times. I have done simulated surveys of radiation levels and plotted them on the map. This area has this many people with an 80% chance of survival if we intervene. This area will be mostly fine without help. This area most of the people will die no matter what we do.

The most important things are a filtered water supply, being able to stay indoors with filtered air overpressure, having a way to clean and decontaminate going from outside to inside.

It's no different than cleaning ash after Mt St Helens.....except it will kill you.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

theres a fallout shelter underneath the highschool i went to. a friend "borrowed" a janitors key and a bunch of us used to go hang out down there every once in a while from 2003-2005. never got caught

 

[CaptJack]

Assuming this is still reasonably accurate, nada to a fallout shelter. There may not be much to survive for here in the Western side of WA State.

As an aside, I believe Russia still has the Jim Creek Naval Radio Station listed as a first-strike target. The facility is located near Oso, WA, and North of greater Seattle.

Jim Creek Naval Radio Station - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'd be more worried about Bangor and Bremerton as targets than Jim Creek. Subs + at Bangor, Carriers + at Bremerton. Yea, after 20 years in the Navy and 20 years at Bremerton, I'm thinking about a move away, far away from the Navy Bases and Military Bases. The whole western side of Washington state will be unlivable for quite some time.
CaptJack
"Mike"

 

[The Heretic]

Just remember, even our own nukes are not that accurate and things can go wrong.

So some of them are going to miss, possibly by many miles.

The old saying, close enough for horseshoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear devices applies here; i.e., you want to be as far away as possible.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I have copes of and re-read fairly often :
Alas , Babylon by Pat Frank
And
Farnham's Freehold by Robert A. Heinlein....
Does that count....?
Andy

 

[Pete F]

I am ready, just follow the needle. I never could figure out why they had a x100 r/hr reading. If you are looking at the meter and it is reading 100 r/hr or so, run like he11, or bend over and kiss your @ss goodbye. I worked as a Health Physics Technician, Specialist and Engineer in my 15 year nuclear career.

 

[CountryGent]

I am ready, just follow the needle. I never could figure out why they had a x100 r/hr reading. If you are looking at the meter and it is reading 100 r/hr or so, run like he11, or bend over and kiss your @ss goodbye. I worked as a Health Physics Technician, Specialist and Engineer in my 15 year nuclear career.


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We too have such instruments squirreled away.