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On the other hand we barely avoided full body cavity searches last month over an apple we'd forgotten about!
DUDE!!! That's no place to be puttin' apples!!!
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On the other hand we barely avoided full body cavity searches last month over an apple we'd forgotten about!
I was just told the same by a CSO in Washington, that guns you've bought at a dealer show up during traffic stops..Any basis for this last one, Kito?
No way can they lawfully get the info from the FFL Dealer's sales books for a general database. Nor from DOL on handgun purchases.
I don't think they get the info (if they get it at all) from the FFL dealer, per se'. The firearms (and stripped AR lowers) I've purchased through an FFL, the serial number, make, and model were always verbally given to the background check person on the other end (which you KNOW they record)... why? All that should be given to them is my personal info, and then they look on the IAFIS to see if I'm OK to purchase a firearm. I've submitted so many sets of finger prints over the years from prior service, employment, and "sensitive transactions" that I KNOW I'm already in there.
Did you get your passport back? Because I'm very sure they can't just keep it, unless there are circumstances that permit it, such as it being fake or stolen, but I'm sure if that was the case you wouldn't be posting here right now.A few years ago my wife talked me into going to Victoria. (I didn't want to) We took the ferry from Seattle, arrived, and started the customs procedure. They found out I had a 2nd degree assault (misdemeanor) conviction from 1994. They put me in a little cubicle, and interrogated me like I was a murder suspect. They held my passport and made us take the next ferry home. I showed them my CPL, (I left my pistol at home, of course) and explained that since then I had sold firearms at a sporting goods store, and had driven armored car for Brinks, so I'd been pretty thoroughly checked out. That didn't make any difference, we still had to leave. On the bright side, my wife will never again ask me if I will go to Canada!
North Bender no offence taken it is a forum to chat and i just like the chance to chat.
It is very annoying though and it is only going to get worse.
The question that is on everyones minds (I am sure) is what can We do to prevent it?
The polititions lie to us out right.
So what can We do to get it under control.
I would love to be able to pack a sidearm when I am out working in the bush. This is where I am most of the time.
Would love to be able to order reloading parts and pieces from the US as We pay through the teeth up here.
It is totally annoying and just plain stupid.
Ken.
Did you get your passport back? Because I'm very sure they can't just keep it, unless there are circumstances that permit it, such as it being fake or stolen, but I'm sure if that was the case you wouldn't be posting here right now.
Yes, they do submit the info for the NICS check through the FBI.
HOWEVER... by llaw, that record is to be destroyed within 48 hours. Congress have tried to require that be kept, even put into a database, but so far that has not been made into law. You do raise an interesting point about WHY the need for the firearms info.. make, model, serial number. If they are checking ME to see whether I've bumped off any LE in the past month or two, that info is not germaine to their query. All the same, the entire lot of data is supposed to be dumped within 48 hours, by law. Also,by law, it certainly cannot be preserved long term in any accessible form, thus I don't think that could be the means LE have access to information on what guns I might own.
One reason they want the firearm info.is to check the stolen firearm data base.
I think we should invade Canada and take control of it.. The whole province of BC can be merged with Washington.. This way, we can go visit the beautiful mountains of British COlumbia without the loss of our gun rights. Canada doesn't have much of an army, I think it will be a quick victory..