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eForms down "until further notice"

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by telero, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Anyone know what "until further notice" means in government speak?

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  2. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    "The subcontractors at CGI screwed this up, too..."
     
  3. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather get the actual $200 stamp than a PDF in an email.
     
  4. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'd prefer no tax or registration for a constitutionally protected right...but considering what we have now, I'd go for a 4-6 month reduction in wait time.
     
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  5. jekbrown

    jekbrown vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way Active Member

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    One word: Michigan.
     
  6. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    It means "about 10 more minutes"...
     
  7. stmcelroy

    stmcelroy Madras, OR Well-Known Member

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    Still down.
     
  8. Redtazdog

    Redtazdog Washington in the sticks Active Member

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    I agree with you on this, I don't have a problem with a one year wait as its better than two but
    it would be nice if it was three months again.
     
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  9. telero

    telero Salem area, Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What it really comes down to is that you're not paying for a stamp, you're paying for a permission slip.
     
  10. walletclan

    walletclan Upper Left Corner Member

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    I find this extremely frustrating. My supressor came in, I rushed down with my trust and my FFL said the system has been down for a week.

    I am going to wait to see if it comes back up because it still beats physical paperwork.
     
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  11. Redtazdog

    Redtazdog Washington in the sticks Active Member

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    Well I guess I have received permission 25+ times and about four more permission slips/stamps for SBR's when the time comes.
     
  12. jekbrown

    jekbrown vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way Active Member

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    True, but moving beyond our own personal concerns, the problem with permissions is that someday someone might stop issuing them... or decide that only certain people (eg their political / racial / ethnic allies) will receive said permission... and then all of us are truly hosed. "I got mine" is not a sustainable pro-2A position.
     
  13. robbijer

    robbijer Salem Oregon Member

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    Received an email from the ATF today with the following in it, Thought I would share it here. Hopefully they are getting their act together.


    Good afternoon registered eForms user:

    Attached is a letter from the Deputy Assistant Director Marvin Richardson on the status of eForms

    If you are in need of the following services listed below please send your information to the appropriate email address below:

    · NFA Making or Transfer Tax refund for draft eForms

    o Direct a request for refund to eForms.Refunds@atf.gov

    o Include the email that was generated for the payment from pay.gov

    · Copy of submitted or finalized eForms

    o Direct a request to eForms.Request@atf.gov

    o Provide specific information regarding what is being requested, including the eForms ID number or the permit/control number

    · Status queries

    o Contact the NFA Branch at (304) 616-4500

    o Contact the Firearms and Explosives Imports Branch at (304) 616-4550

    · Other eForms questions

    o Use “Ask the Experts” or direct the question to eForms.admin@atf.gov

    Thank you for your patience and your support.
    Sincerely yours,
    Lenora (Lee) Alston-Williams
    Lenora (Lee) Alston-Williams

    Industry Liaison Analyst (IOI), IT
    Firearms and Explosives Services Division
    99 New York Avenue, NE
    Washington, DC 20226
    Voice - 202-648-7166
    Fax - 202-776-6406
    E-mail - lee.alston-williams@atf.gov

    --- This is the letter that was attached,
    Dear Industry Colleague:

    As a result of recent changes in state laws concerning certain National Firearms Act (NFA) firearms and devices and other factors, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has experienced an exponential increase in NFA applications in recent years and months. For example, in fiscal year 2005, while ATF processed nearly 41,600 NFA applications, by 2013 that number had skyrocketed by more than 380 percent to more than 199,900 applications. The increase is significant because of the volume as well as the short period of time in which applications have spiked.

    To expedite processing, in 2013, after more than a year of development, ATF launched its “eForms” to provide a tool for more efficient filing of ATF firearms forms. When ATF implemented the eForms system, paper NFA Tax-Paid applications took 9 months to process, while eForms reduced processing time to within 100 days. After a year of successful implementation, in January 2014, ATF attended the annual Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show (SHOT Show) to spread the word about eForms and the system’s efficient processing of applications. Improvements noted in the eForms system include the following:

    • form submission and payment processing time reduced to approximately 5 minutes from 3-4 business days;

    • elimination of 8 weeks of data entry processing backlog;

    • elimination of an estimated 30 days processing time due to errant data entry.

      With these statistics in mind and based on the feedback from industry, the eForms initiative has clearly addressed a long overdue industry need. As a result, the number of registered users has grown from 673 in 2013 to more than 10,000 today. In fact, the number of eForms submitted has exceeded 50,000, with the most significant volume seen in Form 3 and Form 4 applications. Since January 2014, approximately 50 percent of NFA applications have been submitted via eForms. This surge in demand has created the need to temporarily scale back eForms submissions while the system is enhanced to handle greater capacity in the future.

      To accommodate this substantial increase in application volume, ATF must enhance the eForms initiative to ensure that we can meet the industry’s needs as the volume of applications continues to exceed growth expectations. Our goal is to decrease processing times and continue to enhance NFA availability without impact from significant application spikes or volume increases as seen during the last few years
    To accomplish this goal, ATF will take aggressive steps immediately regarding eForms and existing paper application processes. Measures already taken include the following:

    • ATF has surged staffing availability to seven days per week to process both eForms and paper applications. As a result, ATF has already reduced the backlog of applications from more than 80,000 to 73,700, an almost 8 percent reduction in the total backlog since March 20, 2014. Monthly processing volume has increased from 17,200 to 23,600 per month due to the surge, representing a 37 percent increase in form processing.

    • ATF is immediately hiring 15 additional staff to assist in processing NFA applications. In addition, another 15 current staff members are cross-training to assist with NFA application processing.

    • Staff from across ATF have been recruited to assist in backlog processing.

    • ATF has prioritized Form 3 and Form 4 paper application processing, as appropriate, while we are bolstering eForms capabilities. This action will ensure that the highest volume of pending applications is given higher priority and that industry needs are met.

    • ATF has engaged world-class private sector companies to assist in enhancing eForms capacity and functionality to provide industry with the most efficient service possible.

    • ATF will limit routine maintenance and processing within the eForms system to one day each week, which will allow registered industry users to have the full eForms system capacity available during other days. Each Wednesday, a day selected based on use patterns and with the input of our customers, ATF will close the system for routine maintenance and processing. Application processing will continue outside of the system on all weekdays, but ATF will avoid routine maintenance and processing within the eForms system on other days to ensure that eForms remains available to our customers.

    • This week, eForms will once again be available initially for the processing of Form 6 and Form 6A. As capacity is enhanced over the next several weeks, eForms will then continue to accept Forms 1, 2, 5, 9, 5300.11 and 10. All users may continue to submit paper forms throughout this process, and ATF will continue to surge and prioritize to ensure that this enhancement process does not impede commerce. Ultimately, our largest volume of requests, Form 3 and Form 4, will return to the new and improved eForms, which we expect to accomplish in the short term.

    • ATF will continue to monitor application processing timelines on a weekly basis to ensure that progress is being made in the reduction of the backlog. At the same time, ATF will enhance the eForms system in ways that may avoid backlogs in the future, despite the spikes and volume increases. As additional enhancements or surge steps become apparent, we will adapt our plans to address those needs.
    ATF and industry have benefitted from the eForms and ATF remains fully committed to its success and to the reduction of the backlog in paper and eForms applications. The steps outlined above reflect ATF’s commitments, and we will ensure that our industry colleagues remain informed of our progress and have the opportunity to provide input on eForms enhancements.

    We offer our sincere thanks to the eForms user community for your patience and support of the eForms system as these enhancements are completed.
     
  14. jekbrown

    jekbrown vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way Active Member

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    Few weeks eh? Not bad I guess...
     
  15. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Somehow all that stuff has the flavor of the speech you get when someone has bought the company and they're telling everybody how swell everything is going to be and how secure everybody's jobs are.

    Because in the first place it starts out by misrepresenting the reality of a 10 to 11 month wait as "9 months".

    Then we get into the Halcion dreamscape where an 8% increase in production over some past baseline is supposed to relate somehow as a success in meeting a 380% increase in demand.

    Of course, an increase of 15 people in a ridiculously understaffed office of 21 is a big improvement, and I hope it translates into an improvement. There is something so slick about that pep-talk speech that gives me the creeps.
     
  16. nastybynature

    nastybynature ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Active Member

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    Looks like the website is up. :) Now i just need that suppressor i bought from Brightwater to come in. I can almost not hear my AR10 already! :)
     
  17. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    If it's a Form 1 you are seeking.
     
  18. jekbrown

    jekbrown vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way Active Member

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    That's the only form I need. :)
     
  19. bluesurf

    bluesurf Portland Active Member

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    I am in the same boat...
     
  20. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Looks like they're making infringement more convenient for the infringed.

    Let's all celebrate!