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Ebola - I'm getting that sinking feeling that the "IT" is about to hit the fan

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by coastal steelheader, Aug 3, 2014.

  1. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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  2. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Let me see . . . If they scatter these people throughout the U. S the way they are doing with the illegals . . .
    Yeah I understand what you are saying Coastal . . . Epidemic . . . Martial law . . . Suspend Constitution . . .
    Hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm!?!?!?

    Sheldon
     
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  3. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    I think the next few weeks are going to be interesting to say the least.
     
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  4. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Look at the bright side! lol
     
  5. NoFlinch

    NoFlinch In a van down by the river Owner of Cocaine addicted dog.

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    From Wikipedia;
    Transmission between ....... humans is rare, and outbreaks are usually traceable to .....where an individual has handled the carcass of gorilla, chimpanzee, or duiker.[34]

    Fruit bats are also eaten by people..... where they are smoked, grilled or made into a spicy soup.

    PERSONALLY, I've given up on handling gorilla carcasses, and no more grilled bats for me!
     
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  6. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    Ebola Virus is passed person-person by body fluids.
    Wash your hands
    Keep your hands off your face
    Guard your mucus membranes
    Supportive care givers of patients are most susceptible to infection.
    Cleaning up sputum, blood, blood serum, feces, urine etc.
     
  7. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Them duikers are hard to get your hands on!
     
  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Ricola___wait____by_Evil_Lord_Saki-300x236.jpg
     
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  9. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Every generation has it's pandemic.
     
  10. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Hey, I didn't vote for him. lol
     
  11. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    If it's so hard to get then how did the doctor and nurse get it?
     
  12. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Ok, so the guy who did the video... wtf as a "first responder" he doesn't know what he's talking about in identifying the equipment.

    Ebola... not airborne, it's an aerosol hazard, PAPR with CBRNE filters is totally sufficient. Also, there is tons of equipment out there that's designed to go on your face and keep things out, there are not a lot of things designed to keep things in. While I would have felt a lot better had they just kept the guy in a moon bubble and I think they were irresponsible not to do so (mainly from a perception point of view).

    Anyways, lemme go through the video

    2:03 - He's saying "this guy should be wearing an oxygen tank" well, actually no he shouldn't because SCBA tanks have no output filtering. This means anything the guy breaths out is circulated into the ambulance. Sticking an NIOSH N95 mask on his face works much better.
    2:07 - "the guy on the left" is wearing a POSITIVE AIR PRESSURE RESPIRATOR (PAPR) this is a battery operated unit that provides the person wearing it with a positive flow of filtered air. The best way to imagine this is having 6 filters and a fan on the mask you had to wear in the military. Also, the suit he's wearing is a standard vapor barrier suit. The kind you would want to wear if you were being sprayed with anthrax, ebola, or many other kinds of biohazards. I wouldn't want to wear this suit for VX, but it's not designed for that.
    3:25 - "this is a level 2...." no, that's a respirator, a regular gas mask with a water bottle attachment. For those who arn't familiar, most modern masks have the ability to attach a drinking tube, to allow the user to still consume water while under hazmat conditions. Frankly, if I was bottled up in a vapor barrier suit, in the summer in georgia, I would probably kill the mofo who would deny me the ability to drink some water.
    3:45 - "someone needs to know how big it is" well, since we've been experimenting with ebola in the lab for 20+ years, we have a pretty good idea how big it is. Also, yes, the virus, the aerosols and the like get caught in the filter... which will be incinerated along with all the stuff that guy is wearing. Seriously... I thought this guy was a first responder.
    4:45 - "what are you going to do scrub it down with 409?" Apparently this "first responder" has never heard of ethylene oxide, it's a gas sterilant that's used on tons of stuff. And I quote:
    5:11 - "where we wear level 1 moon suits" - Anyone else ever worn one? They're hot, they're stuffy, and without a constant supply of air, you will get hypoxic and die. I wonder at what stage of hypoxia this guy is at.
     
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    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I have had had at training some time ago but recall one of the most important factors was decontamination. How are they going to decontaminate this bio hazard ?
     
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    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Loudest LOL of the day!
    Thanx Cd!
     
  15. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    CDC says
    (NRT) US National response team says
    Brits say
    Canadians say, (they have an MSDS)
    NY Times thinks you need to know

    How to decontaminate a blood borne pathogen
    (envision a pool of blood on the floor, 12 inches in diameter)
    Buy household bleach, plastic trash bags, paper towels.
    Mix a cup of bleach with 4 cups of tap water in a bucket.
    Wear safety glasses, face shield
    Wear impermeable gloves, with plastic trash bag open and within reach
    Pour bleach water around the outside of the spill.
    Cover blood spill with paper towels, saturate them with bleach water.
    Wipe up the blood from the outside of the spill towards the center using fresh paper towel sheet saturated with bleach water. One wipe, towards the center, then put the sheet in the trash bag.
    Repeat until pool of blood is in the plastic trash bag, and no blood remains on the floor.
    Pour bleach water on floor, covering where blood pool was.
    Make sure this area is undisturbed for at least 10 minutes.
    wipe up bleach water with paper towels, dispose in plastic trash bag.
    seal up, close up plastic trash bag. label it as hazardous bio-waste.
    It (bag and it's contents) should be incinerated.

    Bleach dilution information
     
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    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Frankly more worried about the Cascade Subduction zone earthquake then Ebola.
     
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  18. Nightshade

    Nightshade vancouver,WA Well-Known Member

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    we are doomed face it. Some Day we will all Die.
     
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  19. NoFlinch

    NoFlinch In a van down by the river Owner of Cocaine addicted dog.

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    Speak for yourself!
     
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  20. NoFlinch

    NoFlinch In a van down by the river Owner of Cocaine addicted dog.

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    The time I had to do this, it wasn't a pathogen, but it was a mess.

    Once, when my x-wife tried to enter my house..........Oh...

    ...... ...Nevermind

    :):D:confused::);):eek: