Dropped BCG, Will not Go Back In

[titsonritz]

Remove the 22 conversion BCG then try again

 

[parallax]

Remove the 22 conversion BCG then try again

LOL thank you , I needed some humor today.

 

[WillametteWill]

Thanks! Now I have a reply when my wife asks why I need more than one!

Also try, "You buy shoes two at a time, don't you?"

Let me know how that one works out for you!

 

[kmk1012]

Remove the 22 conversion BCG then try again

I was doing that when I fumbled it, lol.

 

[kmk1012]

OK, update. The gas tube/key was ever so slightly off canter. I tapped it with a soft hammer in a few gentle steps and now it is full operational. I'm taking the BCG to my closest shop with a vise and proper clamps to do a backyard staking on it. Depending on how it goes I may still replace the whole thing.

 

[kmk1012]

All of your replies have been more than helpful to say the least. This forum is nothing short of a wealth of information. Thank you everyone for all the knowledge you've supplied!!!

 

[DirectDrive]

All of your replies have been more than helpful to say the least. This forum is nothing short of a wealth of information. Thank you everyone for all the knowledge you've supplied!!!

OK, so that's all fine and dandy, but we are still going to need a billing address.

 

[kmk1012]

OK, so that's fine and dandy, but we are still going to need a billing address.

It's-
900 Court St, Salem, OR 97301
You can make it out to Kate, or whatever she/he is identifying as that day!

 

[titsonritz]

OK, update. The gas tube/key was ever so slightly off canter. I tapped it with a soft hammer in a few gentle steps and now it is full operational. I'm taking the BCG to my closest shop with a vise and proper clamps to do a backyard staking on it. Depending on how it goes I may still replace the whole thing.

Examine the end of the key where the gas tube engages, make sure it has not been oblonged, other otherwise damaged. With the bolt removed make sure the carrier slides freely and the key is properly aligned with the gas tube.

I'd replace the screws, torque carrier key screws to 50 to 58 in-lb. (I use OCKS and stake with a MOACKS). This the weak link of the AR, if not done right expect issues. You could go old school and use a center punch and stake three places (equilateral triangular shaped) per screw on the top of the key.

 

[titsonritz]

 

[parallax]

check the machine screws ( 6 ) to make sure they are not bent or cracked from the fall. If the key way was wonkey, those screws might be damaged. or completely sheared off inside. ( what tisonaritz said )

 

[titsonritz]

Just don't let anyone talk you into a carrier with an integral key such as these thing...
New Bolt Carriers With Integral Gas Keys By Voodoo Innovations -

Complete lame concept. Any damage (or obstruction) to a key like that will require replacement of the the entire carrier, rather than just replacing the key.

 

[Ownerus]

...... I haven't had to take one apart before, my friend has done it for me as I was too nervous about messing something up.......

Take heart, it's so simple Marine recruits 50 years ago could do it. Without youtube! As with all things mechanical, just don't let the ball pein hammer be your tool of first resort

 

[Tony617]

Thanks! Now I have a reply when my wife asks why I need more than one!

I have several BCGs and replacement parts as well. Firing pin, cam pin, firing pin retainer, gas rings, etc. too.

 

[eldbillbo]

well without reading all the replies If your gas key was hit and has a slight ding in it then it then the gas tube may be keeping it from going into battery.

 

[DunRanull]

This is why everyone needs at least two AR15s. Parts swap and check.

"If one is good, then two is better- and THREE is MO BETTAH!" Sorry I cannot be of direct assistance, but advice is free, and "Ah feel yo pain"... good luck.
Oh, I knew there was a reason I invested wisely in AK rifles back in the day. The AR also holds a place in my selection and I stay experienced, but the AK has been fail-safe for me for like 35 years.. can't say the same about the AR-15. There is pro and con that can go on for years, but the AK is dead-nuts reliable, but harder for the layman (me) to work on. Not that this helps your problem, just sayin.
Having written this I see that you've gotten squared away with the carrier key. Glad you got it working again!

 

[titsonritz]

"If one is good, then two is better- and THREE is MO BETTAH!" Sorry I cannot be of direct assistance, but advice is free, and "Ah feel yo pain"... good luck.
Oh, I knew there was a reason I invested wisely in AK rifles back in the day. The AR also holds a place in my selection and I stay experienced, but the AK has been fail-safe for me for like 35 years.. can't say the same about the AR-15. There is pro and con that can go on for years, but the AK is dead-nuts reliable, but harder for the layman (me) to work on. Not that this helps your problem, just sayin.
Having written this I see that you've gotten squared away with the carrier key. Glad you got it working again!

That is completely dependent on which AK and which AR you are talking about, they are not all equal...

There are plenty of AK's with a lot of suckage, I personally would not own an American made AK for any reason. At the same time, I have had well over 5000 rounds through one of my AR's without cleaning and without a single malfunction.
S.W.A.T. MAGAZINE – FILTHY 14 : Slip 2000 Official Blog

 

[DunRanull]

That is completely dependent on which AK and which AR you are talking about, they are not all equal...

There are plenty of AK's with a lot of suckage, I personally would not own an American made AK for any reason. At the same time, I have had well over 5000 rounds through one of my AR's without cleaning and without a single malfunction.
S.W.A.T. MAGAZINE – FILTHY 14 : Slip 2000 Official Blog

My only experience is with combloc weapons and not Romanian either.... I don't recognise Century as actually making AK's -"AK-like products", maybe. Other than the general "accuracy issue", the AK runs circles around the AR.. ime, ymmv!