Other State Don't be surprised. It's California.

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Effective July 1, 2022, here is what takes effect in California concerning semi-automatic pistols (CA Penal Code 31910).

1. Adds an additional safety feature to semi-automatic pistols . Requires the ability to micro-stamp, in one or more locations on the interior of the handgun. the make, model and serial number of the pistol, and transfer that information to each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.

2. All semiautomatic pistols, not already on the safe handgun roster, that do not have micro-stamp capability, are considered "unsafe handguns".

3. For each semiautomatic pistol added to the safe handgun roster, three SAPs, lacking one or more of the safety features required, and added to the roster before July 1, 2022, will be removed from the roster. Removal will start with the SAP placed on the roster at the earliest date.

So there will probably be another buying surge around July 2021 or a little bit later maybe. Oh, and it only costs $1.50 to $5.-- per firearm. Testing at the CA Highway Patrol Academy range and LAPD showed micro-stamping was visible on all tested cartridges. Also the Sporting Arms & Ammunition Manufacturers' Institute conceded the same.

I recently read somewhere that at one point, the safe handgun roster had over 1,500 handguns. Now its down to around 800.
 

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And here's the hypocrisy of California
It's perfectly legal for LEOs to buy and carry "Unsafe" (i.e. non-rostered) handguns.

I always thought that would make for an interesting lawsuit for someone shot by an officer carrying a Gen 4 Glock or some similar off-roster gun. After all, if a gun is not considered "safe" by the state, why is a cop allowed to carry one?
The truth is this:
That damn roster was nothing more than a grift for California to extort money from gun-makers while limiting the options available for law-abiding citizens. And the LEO exemption was just a way to get law-enforcement agencies to buy into this infringement.
 

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Requires the ability to micro-stamp, in one or more locations on the interior of the handgun. the make, model and serial number of the pistol, and transfer that information to each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.
Just so I am clear does this mean to create a 'relief' of the M, M & SN on the interior so it would 'stamp' this onto the case when fired?
 

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Some people say it’s not a concern because no manufacturers are going to implement microstamping and therefore nothing gets bumped off. But the Democrats likely had a plan when they passed this bill.

Bloomberg has long desired to use his wealth to fund gun control. If he pays to start up a licensed 07 FFL that spends $100,000,000 getting crappy microstamping up and running, he can purge every non-microstamped handgun from California’s roster.

If they made one model, more rudimentary than a hi-point, in two calibers, ten colors of each, that would remove 60grandfathered handguns from the roster. Now they change the grip angle by 2 degrees, so the“new” model must be added to the roster. That bumps another 60 grandfathered handguns off the roster. Now they change the trigger from a stamping to a forging. Another 60 gone. Within a few years all quality handguns could be removed from the roster and only these monstrosities would remain.
 

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Some people say it’s not a concern because no manufacturers are going to implement microstamping and therefore nothing gets bumped off. But the Democrats likely had a plan when they passed this bill.

Bloomberg has long desired to use his wealth to fund gun control. If he pays to start up a licensed 07 FFL that spends $100,000,000 getting crappy microstamping up and running, he can purge every non-microstamped handgun from California’s roster.

If they made one model, more rudimentary than a hi-point, in two calibers, ten colors of each, that would remove 60grandfathered handguns from the roster. Now they change the grip angle by 2 degrees, so the“new” model must be added to the roster. That bumps another 60 grandfathered handguns off the roster. Now they change the trigger from a stamping to a forging. Another 60 gone. Within a few years all quality handguns could be removed from the roster and only these monstrosities would remain.
All they would need to do is paint it different colors.
 
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Just so I am clear does this mean to create a 'relief' of the M, M & SN on the interior so it would 'stamp' this onto the case when fired?
Here's the quote from the law. "...equipped with a microscopic array of characters used to identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in one or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.

Previously there was a requirement that micro-stamping marks had to be left in two places on the firearm. New law says 'one or more places.
 
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Makes me sick to think the socialists and the social engineers have stooped this low. Here's a thought, if you don't like guns, don't buy one. Encourage others not to buy one. Then when no one is buying guns, the gun manufacturers will go out of business. Problem solved, see wasn't that easy? Not likely to happen, but it's the argument I made to my anti gun family, and it shut them up.
The black market in California is huge. I stay in touch with a couple of calguns friends. Tons of swapping and trips across the state line, attest to this.
 

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equipped with a microscopic array of characters used to identify the make, model and serial number of the pistol, etched or otherwise imprinted in one or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol, and that are transferred by imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.
Has 'California' consulted with any engineers on a design of the 'interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol' that would effectively,
imprinting on each cartridge case when the firearm is fired.
This would require some sort of stamping device incorporated into the action of the pistol which would be an engineering and design nightmare.
This part:
etched or otherwise imprinted in one or more places on the interior surface or internal working parts of the pistol,
IS a vague, uneducated statement and tells me it is obvious they have NOT consulted anyone about this.

I have a 'possible' idea as to how this could 'effectively' be accomplished but i'll keep it to myself.....
 

RVTECH

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They require it because they know it isn’t feasible.
But they will pass a law making:
All semi automatic pistols, not already on the safe handgun roster,
that do not have micro-stamp capability, are considered "unsafe handguns".
SO - if this 'unsafe gun' (such as one NOT capable of microstamping) goes on the 'roster', and no manufacturers ever creates one then they have in effect, created a 'fake' entry on the roster which allows them to remove three guns from the roster.

This is devious!
 

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No semi auto handguns without microstamping can be added to the roster (except through the color exception). The fake or subterfuge additions to the roster will have to have microstamping.
The fact that they reduced the number of stamp locations from two to one provides further evidence that they intend for Bloomberg or another liberal financier to produce a slew of useless handguns for the roster to bump off the grandfathered guns. The reduction in locations helps facilitate this program. Then they’ll eliminate the roster exception for private party transfers and interstate intrafanilial transfers, so that there isn’t a legal way to purchase an off roster handgun.
 

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This part is confusing:
All semiautomatic pistols, not already on the safe handgun roster, that do not have micro-stamp capability, are considered "unsafe handguns".
SO - the semi auto handguns that already on the 'safe handgun roster' are considered 'safe' unless they are chosen for removal due to addition of new, microstamping equipped gun?

Does this new gun need to physically exist before it can be added to the 'safe' roster"

What prevents CA from simply adding it as a 'concept' with the intent of nothing more than giving them the ability to remove three as per the provisions of the law?

It is very possible I am missing something or not understanding this and if so would appreciate clarification.

Thanks!
 

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