donald trump on gun control

[Blitzkrieg]

I for one believe what the bible says about those who hate Israel, and yes, that means Ron Paul. Obviously Obama does too, but I wouldn't vote against God by voting for him either. The bible says those that curse Israel will be cursed by God.
We can do a LOT better than Ron Paul. I don't think Trump hates Jews or the land given to them by the Creator. I choose Trump.

Depends on who you think Israel really is, today

 

[MA Duce]

I for one believe what the bible says about those who hate Israel, and yes, that means Ron Paul. Obviously Obama does too, but I wouldn't vote against God by voting for him either. The bible says those that curse Israel will be cursed by God.
We can do a LOT better than Ron Paul. I don't think Trump hates Jews or the land given to them by the Creator. I choose Trump.

I guess choosing your candidate based on a fairy tale is as good as some other methods. I for one think Israel is a force of evil and division in the world, and I know they will throw us under the bus the instant they see it as advantageous to them. They have demonstrated this before by attacking and killing Americans to further their goals.

 

[Teufel_Hunden]

Guns.....Hmmmmmm this thread had something to do with the 2nd ammendment didn't it?


What the heck!

 

[SPU]

What a useless thread. I want my 5 minutes back. ;-)

 

[JungleBoy]

I for one believe what the bible says about those who hate Israel, and yes, that means Ron Paul. Obviously Obama does too, but I wouldn't vote against God by voting for him either. The bible says those that curse Israel will be cursed by God.
We can do a LOT better than Ron Paul. I don't think Trump hates Jews or the land given to them by the Creator. I choose Trump.

LOL

As if stealing from Americans through inflation,and taxation to give welfare to other countries is so Christian, right? It is so funny that people who support the violent seizure of other peoples property that call themselves Christian, call the only guy in our government who calls to stop the bombs and bribes to other counties a man who hates Jews and Israel.

Feel free to read
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community in Behalf of Ron Paul by Walter Block
An Open Letter to the Jewish Community in Behalf of Ron Paul, Part II by Walter Block
The Israel Resolution by Ron Paul

 

[Kevatc]

i was curious on where he stood on gun control , since i was thinking of voting for him for pres . but know i dont think i can even though i think he would be a good president on other issues . could someone please tell me why are these so called conservatives such pu%$ys <broken link removed> real issues

You must not be up to date on Trump. The guy is a flip flopping, which way is the wind blowing, self aggrandizing, self promotor of the first order. His "candidacy" as it stands now is a joke on par with his hair. His "candidacy" should he ever commit to a run is deemed to abject failure and any donations to his campaign is money you might just as well burn.

 

[bugeye]

Our resident disinformation artist and communist speaks..

BTW you might want to work on your reading comprehension

Everything I said the the first paragraph is true, check it out and prove me wrong if you can.
And I hardly think anything I said advanced communism in any way, I think I rather dissed it.

The second I do admit is all opinion, however, I'd go for GaGa, cause she looks better in a thong.
Are you in love with BS? If not maybe you should consider it, after all you seem to have a natural calling.

 

[slingshot1943]

Obviously Trump knows how to rebound from bankruptcy.Could be what this country needs.

 

[VW_Factor]

The Donald? Try to imagine how much time he spends in front of a mirror! Then consider his choices in wives and what that shows about his judgement and committment as a man. And, I forget, HOW many times is it that he has declared bankruptcy? Twice? Or is it three? I wonder if all of his unpaid creditors and ruined investors will vote for him?...........................elsullo

He didn't personally declare backruptcy.. A few of his businesses he declared bankrupt.. Yanno out of the hundreds he owns... Is that supposed to mean he is a bad businessman?

Anyway.. I wouldn't support the man for president either. His hair is entirely not fit for the job. >.<

 

[swoop]

You must not be up to date on Trump. The guy is a flip flopping, which way is the wind blowing, self aggrandizing, self promotor of the first order. His "candidacy" as it stands now is a joke on par with his hair. His "candidacy" should he ever commit to a run is deemed to abject failure and any donations to his campaign is money you might just as well burn.

In that case Trump and Obama have a lot in common right? Except for the hair that is..

 

[U201491]

If Donald Trump became president, i'd plan a move to Canada, what a disgrace to our Nations fathers... At this point, it doesn't matter if Republicans or Democrats are in control, both are just as capable of failure. Niether can dig us out of the Bush hole any faster, Obama can't do anything to mend those wounds. It'll take a couple more presidents before we see that.

Did someone spread LSD here????? Obamthehun has quintupled the national debt and has literally bankrupt the nation and he still wants more. He needs to be IMPEACHED and PROSECUTED for so many crimes against America they can't be counted !!!

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Did someone spread LSD here????? Obamthehun has quintupled the national debt and has literally bankrupt the nation and he still wants more. He needs to be IMPEACHED and PROSECUTED for so many crimes against America they can't be counted !!!

You do realize how stupid and easily shown to be false what you just said is...right? The national debt has only really increased by about 40% since 2008 (no where near 400%) and most of that has nothing to do with Obama but more to do with the economic collapse before he took office...and the bailouts which were started under Bush.

 

[Kevatc]

Obviously Trump knows how to rebound from bankruptcy.Could be what this country needs.

It would seem to me that a guy who has regular experience getting into and out of bankruptcy might disqualify him as a legitimate political candidate .... at least from a rationale and sane folks perspective.

 

[Kevatc]

You do realize how stupid and easily shown to be false what you just said is...right? The national debt has only really increased by about 40% since 2008 (no where near 400%) and most of that has nothing to do with Obama but more to do with the economic collapse before he took office...and the bailouts which were started under Bush.

Bingo. What has me scratching my head is that there was an obvious problem with government spending long before Obama. Yet there were no Tea Baggers prattling on during the Bush administration, showing up to political rallies more than happy to show they could carry guns very openly, screaming and in some cases spitting in the faces of long term members of Congress on the steps to the Capital Building. There were no Joe the dumb plumbers, no Sarah Palins, No Bachmann's that latched onto the newest hottest thing to hit Washington DC. Fact of the matter is, had John McCain won the election the notion of Tea Baggers would still be the fantasy notion of male teensters and not a political movement.

 

[WhyteCheddar]

Bingo. What has me scratching my head is that there was an obvious problem with government spending long before Obama. Yet there were no Tea Baggers prattling on during the Bush administration, showing up to political rallies more than happy to show they could carry guns very openly, screaming and in some cases spitting in the faces of long term members of Congress on the steps to the Capital Building. There were no Joe the dumb plumbers, no Sarah Palins, No Bachmann's that latched onto the newest hottest thing to hit Washington DC. Fact of the matter is, had John McCain won the election the notion of Tea Baggers would still be the fantasy notion of male teensters and not a political movement.

Your gripe is illogical. It purports that there is no acceptable moment to say enough is enough.

 

[U201491]

You do realize how stupid and easily shown to be false what you just said is...right? The national debt has only really increased by about 40% since 2008 (no where near 400%) and most of that has nothing to do with Obama but more to do with the economic collapse before he took office...and the bailouts which were started under Bush.

Do you realize how comments like that show the communist/socialist agenda and propaganda agenda in full bloom. Too bad McCarthy isn't still around ! His truth rings with clarity more by the day....................

 

[U201491]

You do realize how stupid and easily shown to be false what you just said is...right? The national debt has only really increased by about 40% since 2008 (no where near 400%) and most of that has nothing to do with Obama but more to do with the economic collapse before he took office...and the bailouts which were started under Bush.

After two years of Obama... Here's your change:



January 2009
TODAY
% chg
Source

Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
$1.83
$3.104
69.6%
1

Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
$43.48
$99.02
127.7%
2

Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
$38.74
$91.38
135.9%
2

Gold: London (per troy oz.)
$853.25
$1,369.50
60.5%
2

Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
$3.56
$6.33
78.1%
2

Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
$9.66
$13.75
42.3%
2

Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob
$13.37
$35.39
164.7%
2

Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
7.6%
9.4%
23.7%
3

Unemployment rate, blacks
12.6%
15.8%
25.4%
3

Number of unemployed
11,616,000
14,485,000
24.7%
3

Number of fed. Employees, ex. Military (curr = 12/10 prelim)
2,779,000
2,840,000
2.2%
3

Real median household income (2008 v 2009)
$50,112
$49,777
-0.7%
4

Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)
31,983,716
43,200,878
35.1%
5

Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)
7,526,598
9,193,838
22.2%
6

Number of long-term unemployed
2,600,000
6,400,000
146.2%
3

Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)
13.2%
14.3%
8.3%
4

People in poverty in U..S. (2008 v 2009)
39,800,000
43,600,000
9.5%
4

U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
5
9
n/a
10

Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)
29.9
23.5
-21.4%
11

Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)
140
164
17.1%
12

U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
89.76
82.03
-8.6%
2

U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
1,575.1
1,865.7
18.4%
13

U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
8,310.9
8,852.3
6.5%
13

National debt, in trillions
$10..627
$14..052
32.2%
14



Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history.. Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane. 27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!

Sources:

(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury.

 

[MA Duce]

After two years of Obama... Here's your change:



January 2009
TODAY
% chg
Source

Avg.. Retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
$1.83
$3.104
69.6%
1

Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
$43.48
$99.02
127.7%
2

Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
$38.74
$91.38
135.9%
2

Gold: London (per troy oz.)
$853.25
$1,369.50
60.5%
2

Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
$3.56
$6.33
78.1%
2

Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
$9.66
$13.75
42.3%
2

Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. Fob
$13.37
$35.39
164.7%
2

Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
7.6%
9.4%
23.7%
3

Unemployment rate, blacks
12.6%
15.8%
25.4%
3

Number of unemployed
11,616,000
14,485,000
24.7%
3

Number of fed. Employees, ex. Military (curr = 12/10 prelim)
2,779,000
2,840,000
2.2%
3

Real median household income (2008 v 2009)
$50,112
$49,777
-0.7%
4

Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)
31,983,716
43,200,878
35.1%
5

Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)
7,526,598
9,193,838
22.2%
6

Number of long-term unemployed
2,600,000
6,400,000
146.2%
3

Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)
13.2%
14.3%
8.3%
4

People in poverty in U..S. (2008 v 2009)
39,800,000
43,600,000
9.5%
4

U.S.. Rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
5
9
n/a
10

Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)
29.9
23.5
-21.4%
11

Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)
140
164
17.1%
12

U.S.. Dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
89.76
82.03
-8.6%
2

U.S.. Money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
1,575.1
1,865.7
18.4%
13

U.S.. Money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
8,310.9
8,852.3
6.5%
13

National debt, in trillions
$10..627
$14..052
32.2%
14



Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our entire nation's history.. Over 27 times as fast. Metaphorically speaking, if you are driving in the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane. 27 times faster, it would be doing 7,555 MPH!

Sources:

(1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau; (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. Of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury.

If you think the above figures reflect solely the influence of the past two years you are on crack. Oil and other commodities reflect the demands placed on a limited supply by a growing global demand and are in no way controlled by any one national policy. The seeds of our current fiscal issues were planted years ago across many administrations. And I don't think a serial marrying comb-over specialist will change a thing.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Do you realize how comments like that show the communist/socialist agenda and propaganda agenda in full bloom. Too bad McCarthy isn't still around ! His truth rings with clarity more by the day....................

Wow, anyone that would glorify a witch hunt like the McCarthy trials has a screw loose. It really does explain the complete lack of contact with reality in your other posts.

 

[PlayboyPenguin]

Bingo. What has me scratching my head is that there was an obvious problem with government spending long before Obama. Yet there were no Tea Baggers prattling on during the Bush administration, showing up to political rallies more than happy to show they could carry guns very openly, screaming and in some cases spitting in the faces of long term members of Congress on the steps to the Capital Building. There were no Joe the dumb plumbers, no Sarah Palins, No Bachmann's that latched onto the newest hottest thing to hit Washington DC. Fact of the matter is, had John McCain won the election the notion of Tea Baggers would still be the fantasy notion of male teensters and not a political movement.

Bush wasn't black...or even half black. I have been to these tea party rallies. Anyone that tries to deny there is a strong element of racism present is a fool. Organizers even make sweeps of the crowds to remove racist signs when they know media is going to be present. I am not saying they are all racists, or even that the majority are, but racism is a big factor in the strength of the movement. It is like the conversation I was listening to at a gunshow a few months back where a bunch of guys were talking about Obama and one of them let the N word slip during his rant. He tried to make it seem like his argument was based on policy...but that one slip let his real motivation show through.