Domestic violence is skyrocketing; what's your plan?

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No surprise that domestic violence is up. Those who have violent tendencies flare up under stress. Same with suicide. Lost your job, locked down with the wife and kids 24/7. That is stressful and those who lack self control and have an anger management problem will lose it. The wife and kids will take the brunt of their frustration.
I am working from home. My wife is a realtor and is shut down. Mother in law developed a health issue and we brought her to stay with us after being in the hospital for a week. Stressful? Heck yes, but you suck it up and deal with it. Time to realize that they are stressed out also and we need to be there for them. That is what family is about.
This virus is not going away anytime soon. It will get worse before it gets better with all the yahoo's running around together saying I don't care if I get the virus. These dimwits don't care if they spread it to others, they are all about themselves and screw everybody else.
How would you like to be a checker in a supermarket being forced to stand there providing grocery's to others who stand 2 or 3 feet away coughing and breathing on you? But you are too proud to wear a mask to help cut down on their possible exposure?

The cases of domestic violence and suicide are going to continue to rise. Sad.
 
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(giggle) Thank you friends for the thoughts. And for adding a bit of levity to an otherwise dark topic.

Continuing said; one of the stereotypes of my own ethnic heritage is lots of oil in the hair. I don't know if that is necessarily true, but in my case, oh it be. Whilst getting a most blessed massage (on a back with lots to knots and a neck with, literally, metal holding parts of it together) I feel those magic hands heading up to that cranium. I think "Oh no, don't do that ... you'll be slimed!" Ever the professional, the masseuse massaged said brain-pan with nary a word of concern. :s0112:
CountryGent, that was beautiful.. I think you need to have this experience published.. I am starting to think you been reading quite a bit of Percy Shelley or Poe in your quarantine. :D
 

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Married a good women and keep to myself.

That said, I don’t stand by and watch others get hurt.

I have enough common sense and plenty of grey matter to handle things as they happen though - I don’t go around contemplating what if’s very often and certainly not when it’s not me or my family that’s in danger.

Guess I didn’t have much to add to this thread - I am still a little confused by its creation.
 
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Guess I didn’t have much to add to this thread - I am still a little confused by its creation.
I guess because I noticed a huge increase in domestic violence calls lately and the latest one in which bystanders decided to step in and use force to stop the attack got me to thinking about the best way to handle a similar situation.
 
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Just the threat of or stating you’ve called the police will de escalate most all but the worst situations.

This stuff isn’t anything different then common safety and daily stuff when you CC...

Keep your distance, have some kind of barrier between you and them (car door etc).
Every confrontation I would have with rowdy person (esp neighbor ) starts with "I called the cops".. That does usually spook most troublemakers. Of course, dragging a woman down a stairway is pretty extreme.. You can kill a person doing that. It all depend on how much I think he is going to kill her.. If you have a group of neighbors who want to subdue some drugged out or drunk guy who is about to kill his wife/girlfriend, I see nothing wrong with it. Nothing like community teamwork to stop the scumbag neighbor.

When I lived in North Carolina I had to deal a very sketchy methhead neighbor (a multiple felon, who carried stolen firearm with him) and who tried to murder his girlfriend on multiple occasions and even damaged a neighbors car in a methed out fit of rage.

Considering this was his methhead girlfriend who seem to stick with the scumbag , I in no way was going to risk my life to save her sorry behind. But, if he decided to attack one of the kids or another one of my neighbors (like lot of ladies who were home alone while husband was at work, etc), he would have to get through me first and I would use any means necessary to stop him. Don't even care about the law compared to the safety of my neighbor. Hate to say it..Of course, I study the laws and want to abide by them as much as possible.

If it is a dispute between people in a household I would try to stay out of that as much as possible, unless it looks like someone is going to die right in front of me. I cannot exactly live with knowing I let someone die when I could have done something.
 
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Guess it all depends on the circumstances. Tweeker couple fighting on a corner on 82nd and I'll pay it no mind. In my neighborhood in a home with a wife and kids, there will be some sort of intercession if we witness it. Hopefully it will just be a call to the police. If it can't wait on the police, I would have no problem intervening. As a kid I witnessed enough broken teeth, black eyes and an incident with a shotgun that almost ended very very badly for all of us. Now a few years down the road there is no way in hell that i could let a kid or housewife suffer for a second longer than necessary. Anyone that would put their head in the sand while listening to a woman get smacked around is nothing short of a coward.
 
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Just based on listening to a police scanner the past few years, domestic violence calls seem to have skyrocketed the past month or so. Used to notice one a night on the weekends. Now it is 3-4 a night, nearly every night.

Did a web search and multiple articles indicate that domestic abuse is way up across the country. Some say upwards of a 70% surge in cases.

Just heard a call to an apartment building in which a male was seen dragging a female out of the apartment and throwing her down some stairs, and a couple of other males appeared and are now beating the bubblegum out of the first male. Four different units are on the way.

Might be a good time to brush up on the laws regarding use of deadly force and consider how you would want to react if thrust into such a situation.

For those in Washington, seems coming to the aid of someone being beaten is justifiable...


RCW 9A.16.050
Homicide—By other person—When justifiable.

Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:
(1) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or
(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he or she is.
[ 2011 c 336 § 354; 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 § 9A.16.050.]

Now, domestic violence calls are the most dangerous for cops, so I would imagine getting involved in such a situation for a good Samaritan must especially be properly weighed and considered.

I was driving on the highway out of Yakima some years ago with my wife and two young children when I saw a Toyota pickup pulled over on the side of the road and a large Hispanic male slapping around a female. I pulled over about 100 yards away and called 911. I had my pistol ready, but didn't get out of the vehicle and didn't get any closer, not with my loved ones in the vehicle.

The man noticed us pulled over and watching him and stopped hitting the woman and threw her into the cab of the pickup and took off. We followed a couple of miles until a state trooper arrived and initiated a stop, then we went on our merry way. Never heard any follow up.

I think we all agree that the smart thing to do in most situations is to MYOB and call 911. But if the aggressor has a deadly weapon, or is inflicting serious injury, I believe most people would want to step in and stop the attack and prevent a possible murder. But if you are carrying and rush in to try and manhandle someone to get them to stop the attack, and then you end up in a physical altercation, it could go South very quickly. Not to mention the person who was the victim, then becomes the aggressor when they see you hurting their domestic partner. Just an ugly situation to thrust yourself into, armed or not.
It also might be a good time, for some people to learn to mind their own business.

You may very well make a situation worse for the woman or man by trying to play hero, and put yourself and your family in harms way in the process (who’s to say the abuser won’t come to your house with a gun next, worse yet- when you aren’t home to look after your family).

Not to mention, unless you see with your own two eyes, an undeniable form of severe physical abuse, you never truly know what’s going on.

Especially when it involves highly emotional, dramatic and volatile populations. Try stepping into the middle of a Latino or Filipino domestic dispute, you’ll have the victim and abuser turn their anger towards you in a heartbeat, the second either is threatened by someone’s “do-good” intentions.

This isn’t to say getting in the middle of a woman getting beat down by a man in front of you isnt grounds to step in, just know you better be ready for the aftermath, and understand at the end of the day you get to go home... the victim doesn’t get to go anywhere else but back to the man- who is now even more angered that you stepped in, and will likely worsen his abuse. Which is now fueled by humiliation and rage. Something to think on. It’s best to call the police if you truly think it’s that bad.
 
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Seeing a lot of corona virus porn out there too. Out there on the internet. I guess it depends on what folks want to channel their energies into. Likely we will see a baby boom at the end of the year. Hope there is more lovin' than fighting going on.
 
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The whole criminal justice system is designed to discourage righteous action by ordinary people. It's bad enough dealing with a scumbag beating his wife; who needs to go through the criminal justice ringer afterwards? Sorry, the only answer that makes sense (unless you are protecting your own) is to dial 911 and then leave.

Before government became so powerful, people like this were dealt with pretty quickly by bystanders.
 

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"We must always fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil that we must fear the most, and that is the indifference of good men."

My wife knows that I can not stand by while others are in need of help. If I am there and I can help the situation, I will try. I was taught and raised to do good and be good, I trust my judgement under duress, and act accordingly. Some instances may just require a 911 call or my assistance/intervention. I'm the one who has to live with my decisions, and I could care less what others might armchair quarterback about me. I have yet to experience a life or death situation or where I have needed to draw, and I hope I never have to. I hope each of you never experience it either, but if you do, that moment in time is your own to judge and react to as you see fit.
 

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As if things aren't sketchy enough already, the newly elected DA for PDX has stated his goal of reducing the prison population by 50%. Says mandatory sentencing is the problem. The fact that the voters clearly wanted it doesn't seem to register with this guy. Another step off the cliff....

"..Schmidt has blamed Oregon’s harsh mandatory minimum schemes, which were codified by a 1994 ballot initiative, for stalling decarceral efforts. “You literally cannot get Oregon’s prison population reduced by 50 percent without getting rid of mandatory sentencing,” he said in April in a Q&A with the Political Report, referring to a goal some decarceration advocates have set. And in arguing that the legislature should repeal mandatory minimums, he presented the change as a way to chip away at DAs’ tremendous power. “When sentences become mandatory,” he said, “whoever makes the charging decision essentially makes the sentencing decision.”..."

 

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DV is not a laughing matter and it has increased more than what is being reported.

Keep in mind that ¼ of DV is a male being assaulted. DV is often swept under the rug due to feelings of humiliation.

I know of one dear friend who once confided in me for a DV situation and I need to circle back around with him to see if the help they sought has helped their situation.
 
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I've never hit a woman in my life. No matter what awful things have been done or said to me over the years. Now I'm dating a Latina, so I'm the one in danger of domestic violence, lol.
I was at a bar once and a drunk woman came up and started yelling at a friends wife who was sitting at my table. I stood up and asked her to leave. She cold cocked me on the jaw and I laid her out flat. Does that count as domestic violence?

I was married to a red headed German. Latina's got nothin' on them.
 
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