Does the government know what guns everyone has?

[Deerhurst]

What paperwork does the State have? Washington has only recently tried to keep track of semiautos, and I'm not sure they are all that competent. Stacks of forms in a warehouse is no way to keep track of anything.

Ever done a 4473? Your background check has all the info they need.

Just bet one everyone knows. No info ever goes away. It's not "paper"work anymore. All done over the computer. it's been digitized for a long time. They don't run into the warehouse to find you file and then read it to make sure you are not a criminal.

If you've never done a 4473 or other background check for a firearm and you've never mentioned firearms on the internet, text, phone call you might be under the radar. You are here talking to me. I'm on all the lists and now you are too!! Welcome to the fun club!

Universal background checks are just another tool.

With the right request and key words one might even be able to FOIA that info. I've seen more private info released under FOIA.

 

[oremike]

When the Jack-booted thugs come for our guns, they are going to do a house to house search. Top to bottom and take them all, not just the ones they "know" about.

 

[WTC]

When the Jack-booted thugs come for our guns, they are going to do a house to house search. Top to bottom and take them all, not just the ones they "know" about.

 

[teflon6string]

Any govt drone who has the gall to say "there is no mandatory gun registration" is full of shiite. They're counting on most sheep being too naive to realize what a weapon-by-weapon BGI really is. Or they simply don't care that you know its a blatant lie. Bottom line? It's nothing more than a sad, duplicitous combination of the two.

 

[Caveman Jim]

Your elected leaders always said that there is no pistol registration in Washington state, they bubblegumin baldfaced lied!!!

 

[Martini_Up]

 

[titsonritz]

They know without doubt who owns guns, they do not know what everyone has unless you're just starting out and doing everything "legal". There are plenty of states that still do handshake deals.

 

[titsonritz]

They know what guns you are GOING to buy.

Pre-crime
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/f...nority-report-style-policing-become-a-reality

 

[AMT]

Trying to make a long story short.....

A buddy of mine was issued a search warrant by the CA (kommiefornia) BATFE. They handed him some papers and said "We are here by court order to collect all of these". When he started looking at the list, they were firearms that he had purchased since he was 21.

He told them "I don't have a lot of these because I had pawned them for rent money in my mid-20's to early 30's. I have no idea where those are". The agents said "get all of them. If you don't you're looking at a long jail sentence."

He walked into his house and opened his safe and said "that is everything that i own now."

This happened 2 years ago when he was in his early 60's.

If you think that they don't know what you've purchased - with a paperwork trail - then you are sadly mistaken.

 

[titsonritz]

If you think that they don't know what you've purchased - with a paperwork trail - then you are sadly mistaken.

I don't think anyone with two brain cells to rub together is doubting that.

 

[GWS]

Trying to make a long story short.....

A buddy of mine was issued a search warrant by the CA (kommiefornia) BATFE. They handed him some papers and said "We are here by court order to collect all of these". When he started looking at the list, they were firearms that he had purchased since he was 21.

He told them "I don't have a lot of these because I had pawned them for rent money in my mid-20's to early 30's. I have no idea where those are". The agents said "get all of them. If you don't you're looking at a long jail sentence."

He walked into his house and opened his safe and said "that is everything that i own now."

This happened 2 years ago when he was in his early 60's.

If you think that they don't know what you've purchased - with a paperwork trail - then you are sadly mistaken.

And what exactly did he do to earn that search warrant/seizure?
Plus the BATFE is a federal, not state agency so I'm wondering who actually came to his house.
Was it a red flag? Was he a felon in possession of firearms? A domestic violence beef? Did he threaten Gavin or Nancy?
Even in the PRK, they have some sort of reason for the warrant.

 

[Certaindeaf]

And what exactly did he do to earn that search warrant/seizure?
Plus the BATFE is a federal, not state agency so I'm wondering who actually came to his house.
Was it a red flag? Was he a felon in possession of firearms? A domestic violence beef? Did he threaten Gavin or Nancy?
Even in the PRK, they have some sort of reason for the warrant.

Probably suspicion of owning a prohibited item. pretty simple really

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

There was a time where my iphone automatically made a file called "guns" I never made such a file on my phone..

That should tell you something.

 

[GWS]

Probably suspicion of owning a prohibited item. pretty simple really

No, it really isn't that simple
The post said they came for ALL of his guns, not a prohibited item.

 

[Certaindeaf]

No, it really isn't that simple
The post said they came for ALL of his guns, not a prohibited item.

Oh. He probably didn't mow his lawn correctly then.

 

[AMT]

And what exactly did he do to earn that search warrant/seizure?
Plus the BATFE is a federal, not state agency so I'm wondering who actually came to his house.
Was it a red flag? Was he a felon in possession of firearms? A domestic violence beef? Did he threaten Gavin or Nancy?
Even in the PRK, they have some sort of reason for the warrant.

Crap... i stand corrected. it was CA DOJ. He'd been seeing a therapist. The therapist reported him as having firearms.

 

[CRBMoA]

Crap... i stand corrected. it was CA DOJ. He'd been seeing a therapist. The therapist reported him as having firearms.

Would that be a HIPPO violation???

 

[GWS]

Crap... i stand corrected. it was CA DOJ. He'd been seeing a therapist. The therapist reported him as having firearms.

Red flagged
Jeez I hate that law
It's like the Russian KGB. Denounce your neighbor and throw due process out the window.

 

[The Heretic]

A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, some guns could be bought and sold privately without having to be transferred via an FFL.

In some states this is still allowed.

So no, the government doesn't know every gun everybody owns - but they are working on it - that is the main reason behind the BGC laws.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Your smart TV can read the serial numbers when you clean guns at the coffee table.

And catalogs all the pohrn you watch too