Does my unicorn carry gun exist?

[PNWguy]

I have located a 1st gen M&P40c with the safety, NIB, for $370 and have ordered it.

It is my unicorn gun, at least for now...

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[edzz]

M&P40c with safety, upgrade the trigger and find an ammo it shoots well, maybe upgrade the sights.
I didn't like having the manual safety on mine, a quick call to S&W and a free safety remove kit came in the mail. If later I decide I want the safety back it's simple to reinstall.
Problem solved.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

CZ75 p07 in 40s&w

.2" too long and a little tall but trust me theyre great carry guns

 

[PNWguy]

M&P40c with safety, upgrade the trigger and find an ammo it shoots well, maybe upgrade the sights.
I didn't like having the manual safety on mine, a quick call to S&W and a free safety remove kit came in the mail. If later I decide I want the safety back it's simple to reinstall.
Problem solved.

I didn't realize that they made the 1.0 version with a safety. Did an internet search and sure enough, they did!

Thanks!

 

[PNWguy]

CZ75 p07 in 40s&w

Unfortunately, it's too big.

 

[DB is Here]

My manual safety is my index finger.

 

[PNWguy]

Found one on sale for $366 NIB and ordered it...

 

[Howard1955]

 

[TTSX]

I want an LCP sized gun with AR capacity, bolt gun accuracy and hits like a howitzer. Yeah, I'm having trouble, too

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Posted this on another gun forum as well. Figured it couldn't hurt to post it here as well...

Currently have three pistols I use for CCW in either IWB or OWB holsters. All have their strengths and weaknesses. Looking for a unicorn CCW pistol.

Current pistols along with their pros and cons:

Springfield Armory XDS 40

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Pros:
- Very compact; my usual go to pistol in a Remora holster.
- .40 S&W is my favorite round
- Extremely accurate. Will do 1.75" groups at 25yds over and over with cheap ammo.
- Very reliable; never had a single issue.

Cons:
- Capacity. Only 6 rounds. I want more.
- No safety. I want one. Used to not care, but now I feel better with one.
- Trigger is heavy, but does have a clean break.

S&W M&P40c

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Pros:
- Capacity. 10 rounds is my new minimum amount.
- .40 S&W
- Perfect size; Rides well IWB and is controllable under rapid fire.
- Decent trigger, but not great
- Reasonably accurate.
- Reliable

Cons:
- No safety
- Accuracy is finicky; occasionally meets my 2" at 25yd standard, but not consistently.
- Trigger is just so-so.
- Ergonomics not as good as my Glock.

Glock G19 Gen 5 MOS

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Pros:
- Capacity! 15 rounds is awesome.
- Accurate
- Reliable
- Trigger is the best Glock trigger I've had.
- Wide variety of holsters and accessories available.

Cons:
- No safety.
- 9mm. I like the cost and shoot-ability of the 9mm, but I like bigger bullets and the .40 S&W.
- A little on the big side. Shrink it a half inch in length and height and it would be perfect, like the M&P40c.

So, my unicorn carry gun will have the following traits:

- .40 S&W
- At least 10rds of capacity.
- Manual safety
- Great trigger
- Extremely reliable.
- 25oz or less in weight.
- Capable of 2" or better at 25yds
- Under 7" overall length and 4.5" or less overall height.

I've searched and haven't found such a unicorn

Dunno about the trigger but specs wise the hk usp40 compact is close. A little heavy though.

 

[DD44Dostovei]

Fns40 compact with manual saftey

What a price!!!

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Fns40 compact with manual saftey

What a price!!!View attachment 567221

I think the low price is due to the recall:

National - FN FNS voluntary recall 12/2018

It's a big deal if one's pistol doesn't work when u need it but in general I think people tend to over-react when some of these design flaws r found. Sig 320 is another example. In regards to sig 320 not being drop safe that is a big deal but once that design flaw is fixed it's a good gun.

 

[WillametteWill]

Why not the M&P Compact 2.0? Better trigger, uses different mags so 13+1 capacity for 40. I just picked one up (in 9mm). Option of barrel lengths as well. Ambi safety option available.

 

[surevaliance]

My "Unicorn" gun is a Glock MOS in 7.62x25 Tokarev.

 

[Howard1955]

 

[WillametteWill]

It was only a matter of time before that started. lol

 

[American123]

Pistol features are like women. Everyone generally agrees on some general attributes and qualities that are desirable, but the more finer details are subject to each own.

I find myself most often picking up a G17 to carry, occasionally using the Sig 938 when size matters. My G17 doesn't seem to mind one bit, this is where pistols and women differ.

 

[Howard1955]

It was only a matter of time before that started. lol

I really should avoid the internet when I'm taking pain meds.

Did I just buy a bazooka from someone here?

 

[L84Cabo]

You are correct. You are asking for a unicorn.

First and foremost, "great triggers" don't come from the factory...unless we're talking about a $3000 Wilson or something. But certainly not in a $500 plastic gun. And if you want a manual safety then you've eliminated all Glocks from the running.

Adjust your criteria a bit and/or be willing to pony up some $$ for a trigger upgrade and you can probably get something pretty close.

For example one of the new M&P 2.0's 3.6" are pretty close. The triggers are pretty good and you can upgrade to an Apex if you want "great." They also come with a safety and are close to your size and weight specs.

Or drop your safety requirement and one of the new single stack 10 round Glocks might work. But I gotta tell you...calling a Glock ergonomic (or more ergo than a M&P) is like calling a pig beautiful. There ain't no such thing as a beautiful pig.

 

[coop44]

Try an FNX yet? Sure you can't stash it in you Speedos at the beach, but damn fine pistol.