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Does it really matter if the next Surgeon General is anti-gun?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by OLDNEWBIE, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Because the anti-gun nuts are trying to get gun ownership/violence thought of as a "health issue" so they can have Dr's gathering the data on ownership. Then it can be used to deny or boost YOUR (the gun owners) insurance rates plus use government $$ to change the public's perception of gun owners like they have done with smokers.
     
  3. FortRock

    FortRock Bend/Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Well said Deen-ad. If they can make it a health issue, then it would be "treatable" and the IRS health enforcers could require you to give them up and send their ATF buddies to collect. There was an interesting article in Sunday's Bend Bulletin by a doctor proclaiming himself as an expert in the gun violence epidemic. He trotted out the tired old refrain that there is a high correlation between guns in the home and suicide. Gee. If a person kills themselves with a gun (inside or outside the home) it is counted as having been in the home. Too bad we are living in irrational times. It's enough to make a guy start smoking! Ha!
     
  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    I guess like how smoking started out with a Surgeon Generals warning, and now it's illegal to smoke in some outdoor parks etc. Only any fool can see smoking is harmful except for pot of course, for now, until the next election. Wonder what the good Doctor has to say about that subject? Isn't anti-breathing smoke supposed to be the Surgeon General's agenda?
    I guess gun control fits the agenda for now, only guns save lives too right? I'm confused.
     
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  5. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The Surgeon General has no business sticking his nose into the "gun control" issue. The nominee sure seems hell bent on doing so. F him.
     
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    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Has there been a Surgeon General in the last 50 years that hasn't been anti gun?
     
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    freestoneangler wa Well-Known Member

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    Interesting... I wonder if he has the same level of concern about marijuana.
     
  8. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Not sure, that one during the Clinton years? (black female) forgot her name, was all about sex ed and got fired. She was a bit goofy but I thought she was O.K.
     
  9. gaijinsamurai

    gaijinsamurai Beaverton Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    IIRC, her name was Jocelyn Elders. I thought the conservative backlash from her answering a reporter's question about masturbation was over the top and unfair.
     
  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    LOL... The one who went on and on about how she was such a HUGE fan of Eric Clapner (Clapton), and made the most profound declaration I have EVER heard; "we all will probably die with something sooner or later".


    Utter BRILLIANCE, I tell you!!
     
  11. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    From the Wall Street Journal -
    ""Revealed: Obama's Controversial Pick for Surgeon General Adopted His Anti-Gun Stance by Watching Violent CARTOONS"--headline Daily Mail (London), March 11" - Sort of a self referencing link

    Story with helpful stills from some of those cartoons
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dment-position-watching-violent-CARTOONS.html



     
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  12. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, she was controversial in her day, now she seems tame. Anyway other than have a soapbox, what real power do they have? It took a long, long time before cigs were demonized to the point where laws started getting passed. And cigs ARE actually bad for you unlike the inanimate object that we call a gun.
    If nominated he won't change any minds. People see right through his agenda. He might even help the cause by being so transparently biased! I don't like him but I'm not too worried.
     
  13. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Here's my question, do they just hand out the fruit salad on the SG's chest or do they actually earn those ribbons? Elders was the first cabinet member who openly sounded "out there." as I recall.

    Brutus Out
     
  14. FortRock

    FortRock Bend/Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Per NRA Chris Cox....also said well....the guy "wants to treat a Constitutional Right as a disease"...then the insurance companies can charge higher premiums for gun owners due to pre-existing condition. Back door registration.
     
  15. GrpCapMandrake

    GrpCapMandrake Vancouver Active Member

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    Don't tell your doctor what your doctor doesn't need to know.
     
  16. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yep, pretty much what I said in post #2


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