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Well you been a member on this site, or any other site you've no doubt heard the discussions of one should open carrier concealed carry. That's not what I'm asking or discussing in this topic. It's more the statement.
To see whether affects a firearm have in the possession of a person, we have to first look at the effects of it. In California, yes California. Had some of the toughest gun crime bills in the nation in the 1970s. They had the slogan "user then go to prison" which was only focused on the criminal element. Meaning if you committed a crime with a firearm, it was automatic jail time up to 25 years depending on the crime. It was seen at that time, that prisons started to feel quite rapidly. And Jerry Brown, decided to work to remove that law. It is important to realize that why this law was in place deaths by a firearm during a criminal act dropped approximately 65%. It was remarkable how simply passing a bill holding the criminal accountable drop crime. This says nothing about the fact of whether you and I should carry. But it does show clear that when holding people accountable when using a firearm, it lowered deaths and increased prosecution of those using a firearm.
So let me ponder this for you, if we kept laws active that held the criminal element accountable when they used a violet object in the action of committing a crime. The streets would be much safer. It would also be much more so, if people in California were aware at any given time the people around them could be armed. Imagine in California if that law had stayed active. And people were able to be armed on the street to protect themselves. Things could have changed and the very different to that state.
You and I, in our Northwest states, need to look at not just gun laws. We need to have laws designed to punish criminals the use of firearm in a very dramatic way. Meaning if you commit any kind of violence act. Not just a violation of firearms law. But the violent act towards another when using a firearm, sentencing should be severe. And we need that legislation right now. As right now you and I can open and concealed carry, with limited conditions in both Washington and Oregon. If you combine that with tougher laws punishing criminals when they commit violent and aggravated acts against the citizens in these great states.
So write your legislators, not only to protect your Second Amendment rights. But tell them you are tired of seeing criminals use firearms and not be held accountable. And if there are laws on the books we need to strengthen those laws and defined them more carefully, only then would can we start curbing the violence that goes along with the firearms, is that the sentencing and punishment fits the crime.
To see whether affects a firearm have in the possession of a person, we have to first look at the effects of it. In California, yes California. Had some of the toughest gun crime bills in the nation in the 1970s. They had the slogan "user then go to prison" which was only focused on the criminal element. Meaning if you committed a crime with a firearm, it was automatic jail time up to 25 years depending on the crime. It was seen at that time, that prisons started to feel quite rapidly. And Jerry Brown, decided to work to remove that law. It is important to realize that why this law was in place deaths by a firearm during a criminal act dropped approximately 65%. It was remarkable how simply passing a bill holding the criminal accountable drop crime. This says nothing about the fact of whether you and I should carry. But it does show clear that when holding people accountable when using a firearm, it lowered deaths and increased prosecution of those using a firearm.
So let me ponder this for you, if we kept laws active that held the criminal element accountable when they used a violet object in the action of committing a crime. The streets would be much safer. It would also be much more so, if people in California were aware at any given time the people around them could be armed. Imagine in California if that law had stayed active. And people were able to be armed on the street to protect themselves. Things could have changed and the very different to that state.
You and I, in our Northwest states, need to look at not just gun laws. We need to have laws designed to punish criminals the use of firearm in a very dramatic way. Meaning if you commit any kind of violence act. Not just a violation of firearms law. But the violent act towards another when using a firearm, sentencing should be severe. And we need that legislation right now. As right now you and I can open and concealed carry, with limited conditions in both Washington and Oregon. If you combine that with tougher laws punishing criminals when they commit violent and aggravated acts against the citizens in these great states.
So write your legislators, not only to protect your Second Amendment rights. But tell them you are tired of seeing criminals use firearms and not be held accountable. And if there are laws on the books we need to strengthen those laws and defined them more carefully, only then would can we start curbing the violence that goes along with the firearms, is that the sentencing and punishment fits the crime.