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Thank you for the response, I was asking for under 21 buyers and in Washington looking at sales after I-1639 takes effect. How is the excise tax calculated, how much paperwork and fees are we talking about?It seems that you're over complicating this, perhaps there is more to the story...
An 07 will have an excise tax on the manufacturing. It's more than just snapping together, there is a report to file and fees to pay Uncle Sam.
Simplest solution, unless you have specific reason for skipping the "buy the lower" part (non resident, age, etc)
Buy the completed lower. Attach the completed upper. Its now a rifle. Take to any FFL and transfer your rifle.
Thank you for the response, I was asking for under 21 buyers and in Washington looking at sales after I-1639 takes effect. How is the excise tax calculated, how much paperwork and fees are we talking about?
With all the law suits being filed it will be years before it actually takes effect. So your underage buyers will likely be well beyond 21.Thank you for the response, I was asking for under 21 buyers and in Washington looking at sales after I-1639...
The criminal liability issue doesn't sound good. Thanks again for the info.Excise taxes are calculated on the total value of the gun...its kind of murky, but with specific murky guidelines. Paperwork, well, the government loves it...they even have that paperwork reduction act thing, printed on an extra 6 pages of every federal document
What I read here, is suggesting intent to manufacture, to circumvent state and federal laws. That becomes a problem with the ATF, as well as state prosecutors. Do it once, not really an issue. Do it numerous times and you're "engaged in the business", that's where the the criminal liability arises.
Hope your right.With all the law suits being filed it will be years before it actually takes effect. So your underage buyers will likely be well beyond 21.![]()
Two more questions if you don't mind. Assuming that restrictions in I-1639 took effect on Jan 1, 2019, is there any reason why Oregon FFL's couldn't ignore it and sell rifles as usual to otherwise non-prohibited WA buyers? Do you see a situation brewing where WA buyers will no longer be able to purchase semi-auto firearms or any other long guns in Oregon in the near future?Excise taxes are calculated on the total value of the gun...its kind of murky, but with specific murky guidelines. Paperwork, well, the government loves it...they even have that paperwork reduction act thing, printed on an extra 6 pages of every federal document
What I read here, is suggesting intent to manufacture, to circumvent state and federal laws. That becomes a problem with the ATF, as well as state prosecutors. Do it once, not really an issue. Do it numerous times and you're "engaged in the business", that's where the the criminal liability arises.
Good info, thank you.Per the BATFE the purchase must be legal in both the state of purchase AND the state of residency of the buyer.
From the BATFE website;
May an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA in any State?
Generally, a person may only acquire a firearm within the person's own State. Exceptions include the acquisition pursuant to a lawful bequest, or an over–the–counter acquisition of a rifle or shotgun from a licensee where the transaction is allowed by the purchaser's State of residence and the licensee's State of business. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.
[18 U.S.C 922(a)(3); 27 CFR 478.29]
That is a good option available to 18-20 crowd for those who have the skill to carve (t-day pun) one of these up right. I expect that option could be done away with when the legislature get's together this spring. It is definitely on the anti-gunners radar.Ya know.....Midway has Poly80 ar lowers for $65....just sayin'.