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Do I want to SBR?

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by Xpanzer88x, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. Xpanzer88x

    Xpanzer88x Eugene Member

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    Hey guys.

    I've been kicking this around forever with different guns I've had but I recently picked up the cz scorpion evo. I'm strongly debating SBRing it by making a trust. My question is I really don't want to be on "some list" now I've Heard it said your already on a list ect. But are there any cons to going SBR? any help/guidance is appreciated
     
  2. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I think you can't let others shoot it and you can't travel across state lines. Also, it's now a rifle and cannot be transported loaded in your vehicle, or concealed on your body...
     
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  3. Lance Jacobs

    Lance Jacobs South Willamette Valley Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Rifles can be loaded and transported legally inside a vehicle in Oregon. The rifle can even be concealed in the vehicle. It does not have to be out in the open.

    There is no problem in Oregon with having a fully loaded AR-15 in your car for self-defense.

    Is Washington law different?

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  4. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    You cannot have a loaded rifle in your vevicle during hunting season in Wa. I know that much....
     
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  5. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    really? Thanks for clarifying. In WA it's a no no ... small exception, if you are a disabled hunter, you can while hunting
     
  6. Xpanzer88x

    Xpanzer88x Eugene Member

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    Is it true no one can shoot it ?
     
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  7. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    What? Anyone can shoot it. You just can't "transfer" it into someone else's "possession." Borrow it while shooting on the range? Totally OK. Borrow it and keep it at their house? Not OK. But where exactly the line is drawn is anyone's guess... you'd have to look at some case law.
     
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  8. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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  9. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    .300 Blackout is a good case in point for doing an SBR.
    It really performs best with an 8" to 10" barrel and coupled with a quality suppressor.
    Paying the extra $200.00 for a tax stamp just to shoot a short barreled rifle doesn't make much sense to me since you already own one in a pistol configuration and you can attach a Sig brace for less money.
     
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  10. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The sigbrace was outlawed recently.
     
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  11. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    not outlawed, but its use as a shoulder stock constitutes a "design modification" and automatically makes your AR pistol an SBR. You can still shoot it as an arm brace ...
     
  12. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Only if you put it to your shoulder when firing it in front of an ATF agent.
     
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  13. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    oh.. lol
     
  14. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    or if your girlfriend takes a cell phone picture of you and a few years later blackmails you ...
     
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  15. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    Which is why the tax stamp is cheaper in the long run :D
     
  16. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    they should have girl-friend tax stamps that protects you from everything she'll ever say ;-)
     
  17. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Owning an SBR is kinda like getting married.
    Do you really love that CZ Scorpion Evo enough to set up a gun trust, engrave your name on it, pay the $200.00 tax stamp, wait three months and then find out that it's not worth all the hassle to divorce yourself from it down the road for something else that grabs your interest.
     
  18. LMT10mm

    LMT10mm Hillsboro Member

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    I' was in the same boat for a very very long time, and even built a AR pistol to scratch the itch. I have a trust and finially ended up pulling the trigger and did the 5.56 sbr 11". In my honest honest honest honest opinion, I would have probably went with a tavor instead because it's a stamp free SBR as its a bullpub design or I would have went with the black out instead of 5.56. I don't regret a thing and it is bad bubblegum, but that's just my 2 cents.... Good luck
     
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  19. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    You can convert the 5.56 to 300 BLK....
     
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  20. LMT10mm

    LMT10mm Hillsboro Member

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    ;)
    Yessir.... Just a little more $$....;)