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Dick's gun lock policy

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by onearmedswordsman, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. onearmedswordsman

    onearmedswordsman Hillsboro, OR Member

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    I've been both eagerly waiting for the Hillsboro Dicks' Sports Warehouse to open, and diligently learning about lever action rifles. Three weeks ago I decided a lever will be my next rifle, but that's as separate topic.

    Today, on my way to Winco, to my surprise, the "Open Soon" was replaced with a "Now Open" banner. With the excitement that reminded me of my younger years, and a long stride, I nearly barged into the hunting section; impatiently waited for my turn. The clerk asked, "can I help you", and I said "please, finish with your other customer first because I need your undivided attention, I am shopping around for a lever rifle and I am close to make a decision." I was rubbing my hands together on the inside. "I want to see all your lever rifles, but I am mostly interested in anything in 44 and 45 calibers, especially 16” to 20" barrels”. I had already spotted a 1894 and a 1895 both blue and stainless steel. He handed me the 1894 in 30-30, and I said, you know, I want a 45 cal so let's just focus on the Guide Gun". He handed me the stainless steel Marlin, a beautiful work of art. Then I asked can you please remove the lock, and he said "No".

    >>>> <expletives> "What?!?!?!" <<<<


    I said inaudibly. I asked again, but he respectfully declined. "Sorry, sir, store policy. I can remove the lock only when you are about to leave the store." I replied, &#8220;Store policy will not help sell me a gun.&#8221;

    I was so incensed that I got embarrassed for being so mad. My face must have been glowing red because shortly after a guy who looked like the assistant store manager asked me if everything was alright. I said &#8220;no&#8221; and explained. He repeated the store policy and added it was illegal to remove the lock. I told him that was not correct. And then admitted it was just company policy. Steam was building up in a hurry and I decided I needed to leave the store or else...

    Outside of the store I was truly so disturbed that I could not remember if this was a widespread policy and I just had missed the memo. That's how stupid I felt. Time to go grocery shopping.

    I was so distracted that I don't know how I could finally manage to get everything I was supposed to buy. Then, much calmed, I decided to go back to the store and just jot the prices down on the paper tape I just got handed at Winco, and go back to research on the web. Back in the firearms counter I ran into a couple young bucks perusing the ads while waiting for a clerk to assist them. While busy taking note of the prices, I decided to ask, still feeling amnesic about the whole incident. "Guys, do you remember Big5, Bi-Mark or any of the other big stores having this gun lock policy. 'What policy?', they asked. I proceeded to open their eyes to a new reality. The young guys suddenly lost interest in the items that had brought us there, and slowly walked away. Mission accomplished! I headed home, eager for the the cathartic experiense of starting a new thread in NWFA.

    So, there you have it. Still feeling quite embarrassed and disgusted, trying to understand and justify the store policy, and unable. This something I&#8217;d expect down south, at the Soviet Socialist &#1071;epublik of Kalifornia. I had visited once the Dick&#8217;s at Washington Square and they would remove the locks for me.

    Totally dumbfounded! Please tell me what a "horse's posterior" I am, how ignorant and insensitive I am, how important this policy is to protect patrons from yahoos like me who want to manhandle unloaded firearms in store full of people or will irresponsibly damage their merchandise and then not buy. Tell me I am over-reacting. Tell me I should just go somewhere else and leave all the hot priced goodies for you.

    Or tell me the chain's board of directors and CEO are a bunch of _____________ (fill the blank). Just don't, don't ignore this thread.

    >>> Revised: I willingly removed a reference to the chain's name because the way I used it really, in my opinion, fails to meet rule #2 interms of the mental image you can from. But truly, they had it coming. <<<
     
  2. DootyBeet

    DootyBeet Salem Member

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    I noticed the Salem store on Lancaster open today but couldn't stop. I'm going in tomorrow to see if same policy. That's stupid and they won't sell anything to anyone with knowledge about 'feeling' the firearm first.
    Were their prices at least good?
    BTW, there were picketers (sp?) out front with big banners about unfair labor practices.
     
  3. LibertyorDeath

    LibertyorDeath Western Washington Member

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    you might as well lock the damn thing in a box and tell them to guess what kind of rifle you are buying.
     
  4. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    That's funny. :thumbup:
     
  5. Thule

    Thule Monroe, WA Member

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    I get insulted when a store (or any product) has a stupid policy in effect for stupid people that is being enforced by stupid employees.

    Don't spend your money at stupid places and don't reward them for being stupid.

    The End :)
     
  6. 56kninja

    56kninja Portland Member

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    Gun lock policy is idiotic. I want to examine my gun before I buy it.

    I remember the Joes there didn't have such a stupid policy, they would unlock them from the rack and let you look at what you would get.
     
  7. raindog

    raindog Portland, OR Active Member

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    Big Five has gun locks on all the guns, but they will remove them if you ask. I was looking at something a few weeks ago and I told the guy I wanted to feel the trigger. He asked me if I had any ammo for the gun on me and I said no, and then he unlocked the trigger. As soon as I handed it back, it was relocked.

    I suspect that it's a side effect of a giant corporation that primarily focuses on things other than guns and wants to keep liability at a minimum for poorly trained, high turnover sales staff.

    Big Five's policey is obnoxious but reasonable. Dick's is absurd. I'm not going to buy a gun - any gun - if I can't dry fire it, look down the barrel, etc.
     
  8. smithmax

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    Wow, I thought this was going to be a story about having to wait for some manager to come around with the key. But to not allow someone to make sure the gun functions before they buy it is ridiculous.
     
  9. wakeadrian

    wakeadrian Beaverton Member

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    I agree that's stupid. I live right up the road and was really looking forward to having it a half mile away. I guess I can throw that out the window. Do they know nothing about purchasing a gun? They'd have to be stupid, to think that would be acceptable!
    A guy at The Security Store got pissed at me for Dry Firing once, too. Idiots.

    Sports Authority is out of the question also. Went there, asked to see a Mossberg 500 that I spotted that was advertised on the tag to be on sale for a great price. All of their "500s" were actually Maverick 88s. Marked on the gun and everything. I asked the guy "Do you know what this is..?" "Oh, It's uh, a 12 ga. *Checks tag* A mossberg 500! Great guns."
    Not only were they extremely mistagged, but the guy knew -nothing-. These "500s" were the only ones they had in stock.
     
  10. Schwabdl

    Schwabdl Hillsboro Active Member

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    went to dicks in hillsboro the other day and the customer service was excellent asked at the gun counter for a box of .380 auto and they told me rifle rounds were out on an endcap?????????????????
     
  11. MilitaryMan84

    MilitaryMan84 Mcminnvile, Oregon Member

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    Wow I have never heard of a store where they wouldn't let you see if the weapon actually functions before you buy it. Thanks for the heads up, I'll be avoiding them til that is changed...
     
  12. onearmedswordsman

    onearmedswordsman Hillsboro, OR Member

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    even though nobody asked...
    Marlin 1895 blue: $550
    Marlin 1895 ss: $650
    That's as far as I could go last night.
     
  13. NoOne

    NoOne Puget Sound Active Member

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    I simply wouldn't buy a gun that I couldn't cycle, or try the trigger on. Sure, some places are sensitive about dropping a firing pin on an empty chamber, so for them I would block the hammer from striking the firing pin...but the point is that I want to examine something before I spend hundreds of dollars on it.

    I guess they just have to hear from more customers that people won't buy a firearm they can't at least cycle completely.

    Although I can understand putting a cable tie around a collector grade expensive revolver to keep people from putting the ring around the cylinder and dropping the value, but I am not talking about that kind of firearm. We are talking about a run of the mill lever gun.
     
  14. onearmedswordsman

    onearmedswordsman Hillsboro, OR Member

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    Just called the Tigard store. The guy I talked to said he sometimes removes the lock if the customer appears very interested. That was the same guy who about 6mo ago let me thoroughly inspect a Stevens I did not buy. I am not saying his name to protect the innocent. Told him if I ever buy at Dick's it'd be because of him.

    What a difference does it make to sleep over things. I have blown most of the steam off anc can think much more clearly. I will most likely take my business somewhere else. The problem is the noose is tightening up on us gun owners. I expect to see more of these policies keep poping up.

    I guess we will have to make it a habit to bring snap caps from now on. At least that will one excuse they cannot use.

    Did you notice this thread is not making it to the "resent threads" page? I guess my language or tone is too unclean/controversial. Will keep cleaning it up to see if the "filters" let it pass thru. :)
     
  15. onearmedswordsman

    onearmedswordsman Hillsboro, OR Member

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    Clarification: clerk would take the firearm out of the gun rack and let me hold it, but that's it.
     
  16. DootyBeet

    DootyBeet Salem Member

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    OK, I did go at lunch today. Nice store. It's in the old Joe's building. Much better stocked and presented than Joe's.
    OK, the gun corner in the back left. Long guns only, good selection and the few I knew prices for, the prices were resonable. They are offering $ 100 off any firearm $ 800 or more. BUT, all postings above are correct. I questioned the gun guy about their policy and he told me it's so they don't lose their license. (yeah right) I asked him if someone could return a firearm after they purchased and didn't like the trigger pull. He said no. I asked him if other buyers have a problem with this policy, he said no. Friendly, touting the company line, and doing his job, but I'd be frustrated working in this department with this policy.
     
  17. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Clackamas County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hey, there are plenty of better places to buy firearms where you can be treated as a responsible shooter and as a responsible adult and without this foolishness.

    How about one of our supporting vendors, for starters.
     
  18. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    +1 :thumbup:
     
  19. wakeadrian

    wakeadrian Beaverton Member

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    That's because you posted it in Off Topic. :) OT and Classifieds, don't make it into the Recent Threads thing.
     
  20. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    If this happens to anyone again...and I"m sure it will...ask to speak to the manager of the day,and politely tell them 'my gun purchasing money is headed to a store that does not have silly gun lock policies like yours. When and if you change your policy on this myself and my frineds will be back...maybe'. goodbye'
    be polite,but get your point acrosse.After many years in retail I can guarantee you that smart-asses get ignored. Think about it.do you like a smart *** mouthing off to you ?