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DHS to Expand eMail Monitoring to Include Private Accounts

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by 3MTA3, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    "By using DHS as the middleman, the Obama administration hopes to bring the formidable overseas intelligence-gathering of the NSA closer to ordinary U.S. residents without triggering an outcry from privacy advocates who have long been leery of the spy agency's eavesdropping."

    US plan calls for more scanning of private Web traffic, email - Technology on NBCNews.com

    And you thought DHS was too bubblegum busy what with ammo and armored vehicle purchases, not to mention realistic targets of pregnant women, children and elderly citizens defending their homes to prevent "hesitation" to do anything else.

    This will start small to avoid making waves - How long before it includes those who ask the wrong questions at town halls?
     
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  2. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    Or how long before people start disappearing in the night.

    SF-
     
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  3. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Always during the night.
     
  4. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    NO WAY WOULD OBOZO DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS:rofl1::rofl1: they said to only ones thinking he would do something like that were wearing tinfoil hats, well it looks like they were wearing the tinfoil hats and it was pulled over their eyes and plugged into their ears.
    the worst part is they will stand behind him and defend his actions. (probably while they are waiting for their handout)
     
  5. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    I've been looking back on DHS-related stuff since 2008, and this is accelerating at a far too creepy rate. The ammo, the vehicles, the monitoring.

    What else are they doing that we don't know about yet?...

    Peter
     
  6. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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  7. Kelzebubba

    Kelzebubba Fort Worth, TX/USA Public Outhouse Active Member

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    Translation... "Just encrypt everything. Make them raise taxes to get more resources."

    Or you could just start using the TOR browser.
     
  8. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I'm a big fan of encryption too. It is almost always a good thing you're trying to break it. VPNs are also a nice step. Don't expect the Internet to have privacy.

    Wish there was better support for encryption from the free webmail providers. It would make encrypted email much more common.
     
  9. Kelzebubba

    Kelzebubba Fort Worth, TX/USA Public Outhouse Active Member

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    Proxy servers, VPN, and encryption. That is how I roll.
     
  10. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yup.
     
  11. Oathkeeper1775

    Oathkeeper1775 Coast Range Well-Known Member

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    That new facility in Utah has the capability to store millions if yota-bites worth of memory; encryption and tunnels (VPNs) won't help you/us stay private as much as you/we may think we can....

    Consider this frame of reference; "turning on your radar tells the enemy where your radar is.....", so do you think the government will tell us where their "radar" is.....what they can and cannot see online?

    I certainly don't know enough about it to sleep good at night, because any communication that even looks a little treasonous to the government, is treasonous. They can/will fill any voids in their case, believe it!

    Last point for perspective's-sake: There are plenty of bad-people the government really needs to watch, so everything we can see that they are doing isn't automatically bad (much is being done behind the scenes, and I hope and pray "at the end of the day", that trust and faith in our government will be improved).
     
  12. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    ...I'd like to take a moment to say that I don't know who the heck hijacked my account and started my last two threads on the DHS...
     
  13. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    HAHAHA_NO.jpg
     
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  14. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Life in the Fourth Reich is a bubblegum.
     
  15. dolooper

    dolooper Coast Range, or thereabouts Well-Known Member

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    Well, encrypted stuff is encrypted and obviously encrypted.

    Another option is to hide in plain sight.
     
  16. PMB

    PMB Vancouver, Washington Active Member

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    This topic is next door to a big question that I have been struggling with.
    Is it better to stay "under the radar" when our hopes and ideals are for the good of the gool ol' USA?

    At what point is standing up and saying "This is wrong, and against what this country was founded for!" the right path?
    Will it ever be the right time to stand up?
    Will all those who stand up in protest to an invasive / authoritarian / police state get mowed down, thereby leaving the peacefully munching sheep?

    There ARE bad people in the USA... Would we all be SAFER if our government would find and catch them all? So should we all just submit to one more invasion of privacy? Should we all submit to one more little rule that will only bother a few others, not me?

    There are certain pithy statements and pithy facts that resonate with me. Several of these statements are quoted from the fellows who wrote the constitution and other articles of confederation, and it certainly looks to me like we are moving away from freedom and towards a police state. There are a number of voices who say that we are already IN a police state.

    So encryption and hiding our thoughts may (or may not) save our individual skins for the time being... heck, maybe even for the rest of our natural lives.

    But is that the right thing to do?
     
  17. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    I've thought about this quite a bit lately. America as framed by our Founding Fathers is a thing of beauty. Historically free republics just don't happen very often. It's a bigger thing than I am, and I will not willingly let it be destroyed by the Progressives and even worse.

    I have decided to not fly under the RADAR, but to stand up and be counted. Hopefully I will make a difference, albeit a small one and not wind up on some televised game show right out of "Running Man". I have the intellect, self control, and skills to go unnoticed, and even thrive within the police state that we may soon be confronted with. Frankly, I could not live with myself to betray the vision and sacrifice to those who have secured our freedom for over two centuries.

    It will take more than simply standing up to evil. We need to learn how to fight it with the greatest effectiveness, and take action. This war will be fought with words and emotion. Yes, emotion. Emotion is the first language of that those who are undecided or oppose liberty, and that must become our first language as well. It can be done, it has been done it must be done and it will be done.
     
  18. mosinguy1

    mosinguy1 out by the ocean Active Member

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    we all post on here. So we are all standing up. One can not possibly think this sight and others just like it are not watched, some more so then others.
     
  19. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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  20. Botte Hork

    Botte Hork Camas WA Well-Known Member

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    Terrorism and children, the two trusted horses to bet on in any argument.