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DHS Ammo Grab: No Longer “Conspiracy” But Plain Reality

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by erudne, Jun 7, 2013.

  1. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    DHS Ammo Grab: No Longer “Conspiracy” But Plain Reality

    DHS Ammo Grab: No Longer “Conspiracy” but Plain Reality

    It now seems clear that the Department of Homeland Security’s stockpiling of ammunition and other warfare supplies can no longer be dismissed as “conspiracy theory,” but is a very real development in the actions of an overreaching federal government.

    Many have suggested and assumed that the ammo and gun shortage experienced across the country is the result of private citizens’ unprecedented purchases, in recent years, in preparation for impending gun control measures. While this is true in part, it is only half of the logical explanation that can be assessed based upon available facts.

    This phenomenon has been described as creating a perfect storm for private gun owners when paired with the reality that the DHS and other federal agencies are buying up once-available guns and ammunition like never before. Mainstream news sources such as Rawstory and Media Matters have attacked Fox News’ Lou Dobbs and others for their statements affirming that the government has indeed purchased at least 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition (especially including hollow points), 7000 fully automatic assault rifles, and 2700 new light armored vehicles, as well as riot gear including body armor. DHS has also invested $2 million with a contractor that recently apologized for its production of shooting targets depicting elderly gun owners and even pregnant women and children in residential settings, after photos and publicity of the targets recently gained widespread exposure.

    As it turned out, these claims have proven to be very accurate, as even Media Matters admitted that DHS officials made the 1.6 billion rounds purchase as they were also busy denying it. The organization also insisted that “the order for 2717 new light armored vehicles [came] from the United States Marine Corps – not the Department of Homeland Security.” This claim seems baseless, as all photos have clearly shown the DHS emblem emblazoned on the tanks in question.

    All these dismissive reports against the supposedly “misleading” claim of the DHS stockpiling effort can be traced back to a February 14 Associated Press report, lacking any investigative basis, that simply repeated the statement from DHS official Peggy Dixon, who claimed the bulk ammo purchases to have been made in order to save money, and that the bullets were solely intended for military and federal law enforcement training purposes. This claim becomes weaker upon consideration that hollow-point ammunition is significantly more expensive than standard rounds, and military spokesmen and ammunition experts contend that such bullets are unsuitable for training purposes and have never been used for such a purpose.




    Seemingly, at the very least, even if the government isn’t preparing to make war against its own people, they are preparing for civil unrest, which is suspect enough for the warranted concern of the American people. The government may well be, however, deliberately attempting to restrict the supply of ammunition, thus the functionality of firearms, from the American people. It has never been a well-kept secret that the Obama administration is no big fan of the Second Amendment. The longstanding fears of many have begun to be shared by several of our elected officials who are increasingly becoming more vocal in their concerns about the government’s attempt to strip citizens of their right to keep and bear arms. Recently, as a guest on Aaron Klein’s radio show, Oklahoma Republican Sen. James Inholfe accused the Obama administration of buying up unprecedented levels of ammunitions as a means to intentionally bypass the Second Amendment until law-abiding citizens “can’t even buy ammunition because government is purchasing so much.” Inholfe cited last month’s testimony from DHS Chief Procurement Officer Nick Nayak who said DHS has the right to buy up as much ammunition as it deems necessary. He mentioned that the ammo grab is an ongoing concern, as even still “they’re planning to buy 750 million rounds. Well, that is more than three times the amount that our soldiers are using for training to defend our nation. So, it’s just another effort to restrict gun activity and ownership.” The senator is in the process of introducing the Ammunition Management for More Obtainability (AMMO) bill that will limit “non-defense, armed federal agencies to pre-Obama levels of ammunition.”

    There now seems to be ample evidence that our federal government, namely the Obama administration, is up to no good when it comes to the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding American citizens. Historically speaking, this is a very alarming cause for concern. Hopefully, this concern then will continue to be shared by more elected officials in our local, state, and federal governments, as well as among our military and law enforcement communities. Lou Dobbs likely said it best with the following statement: “It’s like I tell anyone who brushes off what I try to tell them as simple ‘conspiracy theory.’ At some point it stops being a theory, and is in fact a conspiracy. I also remind them that we’re not talking about science fiction or aliens here. We’re talking about the very REAL potential of government misconduct towards its own people; something that has happened time and time again in history.”
     
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  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Using our money against us.....

    They all have to go, as they have forgotten what America and Americans are all about!!
     
  3. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    I don't discredit this but do you have a source link for info?
     
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  4. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    It's not far from 1775, people.. learn history lessons
     
  5. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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  6. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    just because someone new writes an article does not make it true. When CCI, Winchester, Remington, and the other ammunition makers post on their web sites that its the Government I'll believe them. Instead some of them have posted exactly the opposite.

    The 1.6 billion rounds was a notice of intent to buy spread out over 5 years.

    But hey who am I to interfere with a good dead horse beating.
     
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  7. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure the Tories said similar things prior to April 19th, 1775
     
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  8. Felt Lizard

    Felt Lizard The great NW Member

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    Mainstream media links only; many of you troglodytes (definition here) trust little else. You are not ready for the blue pill, but I'll open the bottle and put it on the counter anyway. (Probably wasting a pill here...)

    Pay attention to the dates on the following articles. OH YES. My,my,my! You are *WAY* behind on the times.....

    It is a reality:
    1.6 Billion Rounds Of Ammo For Homeland Security? It's Time For A National Conversation - Forbes

    BUT WHY?!?!? An insider provides a candid explanation of the situation with the effect and intent of the government ammunition contracts:
    Michael Savage Talks to Expert about DHS buying Massive Amount of Ammunition - 2/14/13 - YouTube

    It's caught the attention of Congress:
    Inhofe: Obama admin trying to 'dry up' ammo supply [AUDIO] | The Daily Caller
    GAO Now Investigating DHS Ammo Purchases - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

    Why wouldn't ammo manufacturers post the information that they are pushing their manufacturing capacities to heretofore unseen heights to mega-arm the government and starve the citizens out of ammo? HMMMM....bad publicity perhaps?!

    Think about that for one millisecond; You are the spokesperson for Winchester, and the CEO walks over and says: Phil, we're making ammo and raking in more profit than ever before and it's all because the Uncle Sam is secretly hoarding rounds to keep it out of the hands of honest citizens. I've called a press conference in 10 minutes and we're going live with this online simultaneously. I bet we sure are going to be popular. They'll love us. On an unrelated note, as you're speaking to the cameras, I'll be wearing this class 3 vest, just in case....

    And whenever you hear a politician say that they want to pass another gun control law, but that they don't want to take your guns, that you are a conspiracy nut, this is what they say later when you aren't listening:
    CONFISCATION! NJ Senators CAUGHT Mocking Gun Owners Committee Meeting May 9, 2013 - YouTube

    DOUBTERS RAISE HANDS NOW. DOUBTERS RAISE HANDS NOW.
     
  9. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    :rofl1:

    Like it has a chance in hell of passing. Wonder how long his staffers had to sit around and how many beers they drank before they came up with that name?

    :rofl1:
     
  10. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Whoaaa there Mark W.! This is Friday and this hasn't been discussed since ..... yesterday so that makes it a new horse to beat today.
     
  11. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Your right what was I thinking. Silly me I think I'll just go to the classified section here and look at the 50 ads for over priced ammo with walmart price tags on them and keep quiet.
     
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  12. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Don't forget to stop by the Handgun section where you can pick up a nice $499 Glock19 for $600+....makes my loins lurch like a wounded lizard to see all that goodness.
     
  13. Partsproduction

    Partsproduction Tillamook Oregon Active Member

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    Just google "shooting targets depicting elderly gun owners".
    What other reason can there be to make such targets for our government? I really think this website is infested with people working against the Constitution.
     
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  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The thing of it is that its an outfit that sells targets to law enforcement that designed these targets. Do you see anywhere where DHS or anyone outside that private company directed them to do that?
     
  16. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    DHS bought the targets 2 Million worth what more do you need to know. They could have returned them but did not. I wonder how many non normal events the Jews saw from Hitler before they took action and believed there end was near. Wait they never did until it was too late to stop. Learn from history.