Determining length on an SBR for form 1.

[Wombat of Doom]

With an AR buffer tube and a collapsible stock, is it from the end of barrel sans barrel device with the stock extended fully? Or to the end of the buffer tube.

If you are 1/4 inch off or so because you didn't actually put it together before you had permission, does anyone care or check? I want to build my first SBR. I just want to do it all right and legal.

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[KKG]

I believe the length is measured with the stock collapsed and goes to the end of the barrel w/o the flash hider in place. I know that is how the overall length is measured when measurements are taken of a regular rifle or shotgun.

 

[Member 34319]

I recently learned that it is stock fully extended.

 

[Member 34319]

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[Stomper]

I recently learned that it is stock fully extended.

This....

 

[Boboclown]

I believe the length is measured with the stock collapsed and goes to the end of the barrel w/o the flash hider in place. I know that is how the overall length is measured when measurements are taken of a regular rifle or shotgun.

Collapsed is only with certain states. Outside of those states, fully extended.

 

[Argonaut]

Collapsed is only with certain states. Outside of those states, fully extended.

How can that be?...........it is a federal law.

 

[coop44]

Yeah... what he said.

Either way, does it make it any more or less than what it is?

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

pretty sure its with stock extended.

i like my AR pistol because in some states its illegal to have a loaded rifle in the truck.

 

[Boboclown]

How can that be?...........it is a federal law.

Because they measure stock collapsed for everything, so in those states if your AR is under 26" collapsed you have to SBR it there. A bunch of BS ain't it? Extra stuff to deal with that you shouldn't have to.

 

[Member 34319]

Because they measure stock collapsed for everything, so in those states if your AR is under 26" collapsed you have to SBR it there. A bunch of BS ain't it? Extra stuff to deal with that you shouldn't have to.

That's were I learned they actually measure it fully extended. Another member brought up the Keltec CMR30. It has a collapsible stock. When the stock is fully collapsed it isn't long enough to meet the requirements to be a rifle. Yet extended it is. Yet you can buy it right now if you like.

 

[Boboclown]

That's were I learned they actually measure it fully extended. Another member brought up the Keltec CMR30. It has a collapsible stock. When the stock is fully collapsed it isn't long enough to meet the requirements to be a rifle. Yet extended it is. Yet you can buy it right now if you like.

For most states, yes. Otherwise my wasr wouldn't be legal now would it?

But... Some states measure it collapsed. So for those states, if the stock is collapsed and causes the rifle to be under 26", it will be illegal in said states.

 

[Member 34319]

For most states, yes. Otherwise my wasr wouldn't be legal now would it?

But... Some states measure it collapsed. So for those states, if the stock is collapsed and causes the rifle to be under 26", it will be illegal in said states.

I'm always learning. Got a list of which states?

 

[Boboclown]

I'm always learning. Got a list of which states?

Not off the top of my head. IICR CT might be one of the states.

 

[drewp]

With an AR buffer tube and a collapsible stock, is it from the end of barrel sans barrel device with the stock extended fully? Or to the end of the buffer tube.

If you are 1/4 inch off or so because you didn't actually put it together before you had permission, does anyone care or check? I want to build my first SBR. I just want to do it all right and legal.

no one checks...if i recall I think they only care about barrel length and really that's a really loose thing...
if doing a 556 just say 7.5 inch barrel, they can't complain if you end up with a longer 10 inch barrel or something. once you have an sbr lower uppers are infinite...so there is no way to really say what stays on there or what it should be

 

[jon321]

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