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Destruction of Fired Military Brass

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Weathermaker, Mar 13, 2009.

  1. Weathermaker

    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    Evidently, an agency of the Department of Defense has issued a directive that all spent military brass must be destroyed.

    Here is one link that gives more details: http://www.jpfo.org/alerts03/alert20090313.htm

    We can all post our feelings here...which is okay.

    But, each of us needs to contact our own congressional and senatorial folks and ask for their help to get this directive reversed.

    Here is a simple text message that I sent:

    "Dear (Senator/Congressman),

    It has come to my attention that an agency of the Department of Defense has just directed that all military fired brass must be destroyed. As a taxpayer, I oppose this action as the sale of spent military brass is a source of income that, to a degree, offsets other government expenditures.

    In addition, as one that participates in military rifle shooting matches, it reduces my option to buy reloaded ammunition at a reasonable cost. We must remember, ownership of government property whether new, excess or surplus, is ultimately by the people.

    As my (senator/congressman), I request you to represent me and take the necessary actions to reverse this directive by the Department of Defense.

    Thank you,

    (Signed)
    (City, State)"

    It's easy to do, as most representatives and senators have a formatted message layout on there website. All you need to do is cut here and paste there. Don't forget to put their name in the greeting and your name in the closing.
     
  2. Sawdust

    Sawdust Bull Mountain(Tigard), OR Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out.
     
  3. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Good post, will write.
     
  4. Weathermaker

    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    Update:

    I can not verify the source or absolute authenticity of my original post. It may be a scam. Although, a person on another forum did post this:

    "After reading through the material from JPFO, posted above, I phoned the D.C. office of [Montana] Senator Max Baucus. The gentleman I spoke with there indicated that they had heard about the situation and were - looking into it."

    I still sent off a message to my two senators and congressman anyway. Hopefully, one of them will be able to substantiate or debunk this issue.
     
  5. armedandsafe

    armedandsafe Moses Lake, WA Active Member

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    According to the new issue of the regulation, 50 cal and below are still OK for sale in CONUS un mutilated.



    Pops
     
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    PosterGuy Hillsboro Member

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  7. Weathermaker

    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    Take the time to listen to this.

    http://guntalk.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=443576

    What you'll want to listen to is about 12:30 minutes into the broadcast...if you want to fast forward to that point.

    Like I said in my earlier post, we can talk about this issue here...which is fine.

    But, everyone needs to contact their senators & representatives.
     
  8. Weathermaker

    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    From a member on another forum:

    "I called the NRA-ILA (INSTITUTE FOR LEGISLATIVE ACTION). I spoke with a guy named Eric and he put me on hold for a few minutes till he could get the latest info on this subject.

    After returning to the phone he gave me a bunch of info. The NRA is definitely aware of the problem and have heard from some reloaded ammo companies and individuals. Eric rattled off all the DOD agencies invlolved and apparently this may have been "somewhat of a mistake" The ranking DOD agency has heard our concerns and condsiders them VALID!!

    Right now, the word is from DOD to the NRA that they hope to have a WAIVER put into place within a two or three weeks which will CORRECT this situation and return once fired brass, .50 caliber and below to the sales policies previously used!!!

    Eric said it might be helpful to call our Congressmen just in case and make them aware of the impact on the DOD budget, police training, and inidividual rights."
     
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    Wierzbowski Sherwood Member

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  11. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Did that.
     
  12. Shadow

    Shadow Conyers, Georgia, United States Member

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    finch6013 Oregon City Active Member

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    How do we contact our congress rep? I would like to email the person on several things.
     
  14. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I believe this whole issue stems from an incident of some old F-14 Tomcat parts being sold to a scraping company (in effect causing a National Security breach), so as usual the goobermint in it's wisdom mandated a suspension of ALL military surplus sales henceforth... the dummies.
     
  15. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they pulled that one... but I poked about on the URL given above, and found about eight lots similar to this one, no mutilation required, no restrictions other than pay up, load up, and giddyup. Here's the list for this one, others had 9mm as well as these sizes. LOT (3420) APPROX LBS, FIRED BRASS, (4)PALLETS, (8)55 GAL BARRELS, (4) BARRELS OF 5. 56 APPROX 1720 LBS, (4) BARRELS OF 7. 62 APPROX 1700 LBS BARRELS AND PALLETS ARE INCLUDED IN TOTAL WEIGHT, MUTILATION NOT REQUIRED.
     
  16. AndreS123

    AndreS123 Sammamish, WA New Member

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    the decision has been reversed.

    C/p:
    UPDATE 2228 EDT 17 MAR 2009: Posted at Georgia Arms:

    Thanks to your voice, DOD has rescinded the order to mutilate all spent cases as of 4:30 pm on 3/17/09. We appreciate the time and effort that you expended, together we all made a difference. We will be posting the email we received from DOD as well as any additional information within the next 12-16 hours. Thanks so much and lets get to work!!! Georgia Arms
     
  17. Weathermaker

    Weathermaker Washington Member

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    unionguy Portland Active Member

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    You can also add the following point to our letters/calls:

    The needless destruction of perfectly reusable casings is also an environmental issue. It reduces the need to further mine for metals and thereby uses far less energy than producing the ammunition from raw materials. In turn, this reduces the carbon emissions. Reducing energy use and carbon emissions is both a conservation and a national security issue.



    Let's look at this issue from all angles...doing so will generate more support.