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Dept of Ed Buying Shotguns

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Jerry, Mar 11, 2010.

  1. Jerry

    Jerry Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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  2. Redrum

    Redrum Portlandia Active Member

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    short barreled shotguns to boot :paranoid:
     
  3. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    What the ****?
     
  4. parsons_12b

    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Wait I can't take a gun to school but the givernment can. It is just a matter of time before this whole experiment we are in implodes.
     
  5. supergenius

    supergenius 206 Active Member

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    and then.........................
     
  6. Jerry

    Jerry Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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  7. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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  8. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    I used to bring shotguns to school all the time!!!






    I was in trap shooting (actually went to state and got 3rd)
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I was more interested in the 3.3 million rounds of 40 cal. per month for the ICE boys.
     
  10. parsons_12b

    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    maybe we can thin the heard and start over.
     
  11. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Comes out to something like 300 rounds per month per officer. Probably higher than the average police force, but I'd certainly hope ICE is practicing that much.
     
  12. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    Yep, just what we need another federal police force.:D
     
  13. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    I'd rather have a bunch of little ones w/ specific purposes than an enormous one that does everything..... Like ICE seems to want to be. :paranoid:
     
  14. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Scroll down to the bottom of the bid request. CHICAGO? Guess it's only
    citizens that can't have guns in Chicago. Hope that changes in a few
    months.


    Place of Delivery:
    U.S. Department of Education
    Office of Inspector General
    c/o: Gary Pawlak, Special Agent
    500 West Madison Street - Suite 1414
    Chicago, IL 60661
     
  15. Sawdust

    Sawdust Bull Mountain(Tigard), OR Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    anyone notice this -
    -"only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts."

    Since when does the dept. of Ed need "combat training" ?

    Did I miss something. When and WHY are they armed?
     
  16. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    There's an earlier link that mentions that this is for the department's Inspector General. Every federal department has one, and every IG's office has at least a small detective force comprised of Special Agents who investigate waste, fraud, abuse, and employee misconduct. They're one of the best things going in the federal government, and save taxpayers billions of dollars a year at a relatively minimal cost. More info here: http://www.ignet.gov/ - and a long .pdf about why/when armed investigators are authorized for IGs: http://www.ignet.gov/pande/standards/agleguidelines.pdf
     
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    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    It's Chicago. Those third graders are tough muthas. :D
     
  18. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    :D:D Recently the IRS made the same kind of purchase. Maybe the ED department is going to help the IRS get every fugging dime of taxes out of you possible. But since it's the ED department they can say "it's for the childeren":bluelaugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh:

    jj
     
  19. Sawdust

    Sawdust Bull Mountain(Tigard), OR Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Thanks for the link. I did notice something that I thought disturbing though---

    "However, prior to enactment of section 812 of the Homeland Security Act of2002 (Pub. L. No.
    t07-296), the Inspector General Act did not provide firearms, arrest, or search warrant authorities
    for investigators: of those offices.' The Inspectors General of the various executive agencies
    relied on Memoranda of Understanding with the Department of Justice that provided temporary
    grants of law enforcement powers through deputations. As the volume of investigations
    warranting such police powers increased, deputations were authorized on a "blanket" -or officewide
    basis
    ."

    Is there that much "fraud and criminal activity" in the federal gov't?

    Scary.
     
  20. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Nope, that's mostly in Congress (and departments like the military that make megabuck purchases), but the threat of kickbacks, bribes, and corruption exists anywhere there are multimillion-dollar contracts, even for things as simple as computer networks and janitorial services.

    The IGs also investigate most of the attempts to commit fraud against the government (with a few exceptions - the common small-change things like tax and social security fraud are handled by specialized agencies). The Department of Education folks we're talking about now, for example, are probably responsible for investigating some types of financial aid/student loan fraud.

    To me, it looks like this was just a housekeeping regulation designed to streamline the procedure by which the DOJ authorizes creates IG offices.