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"Democracies don't fear their own people"

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by deen_ad, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Quote from Hillary Clinton:

    "Some of the countries engaging in these behaviors still claim to be democracies," Clinton said at an international conference on the promotion of democracy and human rights. "Democracies don't fear their own people. They recognize that citizens must be free to come together, to advocate and agitate."

    Why is she a champion of gun control then and why is she pushing gun control on the US through the UN?

    Read the story here: Clinton: 'Steel vise' crushing civic activists - World news - Europe - msnbc.com


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  2. longcolt

    longcolt Zephyrhills, FL Active Member

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    Because she does not like firearms.
     
  3. LibertyorDeath

    LibertyorDeath Western Washington Member

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    You lie, she loves firearms.




    Loves taking them away...
     
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    nixuser nw Member

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  5. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    "Democracies don't fear their own people."

    LOL! Especially when they are unarmed! LOL!
     
  6. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    What our country has to fear is loud goofy people who have reduced the complexity of politics to arguments so simple they would be inadequate to win a debate in kindergarden.
     
  7. Sodbuster

    Sodbuster Beaverton, OR Chief Cook/Bottle Washer

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    Oh, you mean like the demoncrats? (yes spelled demon-crats).

    "We have to pass the bill to know what's inside it." Pelosi

    "The stimulus worked." Obama

    "The system worked." (about the Christmas bomb failure)

    Perhaps they should go out and read the Federalist Papers as well as the Anti-Federalist Papers to catch a clue. Or just take a look at what has happened to other countries that have gone too deep in debt all the while operating a quasi-socialist government.

    But, I know that Bug's just looking for flame-bait. Here ya go bug. Go get em.

    Sodbuster
     
  8. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    “Something has to be done urgently to stop the out-of-control Obama-Reid-Pelosi spending machine, and no government agency should be immune from budget scrutiny. We must make sure, however, that we do nothing to undermine the effectiveness of our military. If we lose wars, if we lose the ability to deter adversaries, if we lose the ability to provide security for ourselves and for our allies, we risk losing all that makes America great. That is a price we cannot afford to pay."
     
  9. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    You mean like politicians campaigning for office? Zing! Dang Bugeye did that statement ever come back and bite you in the rear! :bluelaugh:
     
  10. smurf hunter

    smurf hunter Auburn, WA Active Member

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    She completely negated the original quote:

    "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

    -Thomas Jefferson
     
  11. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    "Democracies don't fear their own people"

    Because this country started off as a limited constitutional republic (where the people have control over the government), not a democracy. Now that it is a democracy, the government has the control of the people.
     
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    thelendog Milwaukie Member

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    Democracies only need to fear the 49.999999999999% of the people who voted the other way . . .
     
  13. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    This is a typical NWFA ubber bubba contest,

    Clinton said nothing wrong and nothing untrue, so this boils down to more fake aversion from the brain dead. Fake aversion is a kindergarden tactic that adults are supposed to outgrow!

    If Pavlov had dogs as easy to condition as you folks, he could have staged Hamlet with them.

    Woof woof oh free thinkers!
     
  14. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No backfire on me at all, just another bit of nonsense from you!
    Politicians campaigning for office yap what the public wants to hear, nothing novel about that at all, unless your goofy enough to think some of them are telling the truth. In most cases the politicians knows it's BS and the listeners know it's BS.

    But you folks are seeing the world through a filter that prevents the viewing of reality, and that is why you continue to post, and backslap over, BS like this thread.

    from an old Frank Zappa song

    '
    What's the ugly-est part of your body
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    some say it's their nose
    some say it's their toes
    but I think it's your mind
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    "
    '
     
  15. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    And Motley Crue said:

    "Don't go away mad.........." ;)
     
  16. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    +1, but I don't think he can help himself.
     
  17. greydog111

    greydog111 peoples repubilik of Oregon Active Member

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    Koolaide drinkin, bubblegummin, dangnabbin, Troll!
    Why do you brothers keep responding to Bug? He is sold out to the left and put his brain in a blind trust held by the dead bones of Marx. Greydog.
     
  18. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Funny a fellow talks about "free thinking" when he supports socialism. Obviousely, nothing is free and he isn't thinking.:D

    I guess you guys forget it was the Clintons that used the BATF to raid Waco for guns and ended up killing over 80 men women and childeren. That should have told you how she really feels about guns.

    jj
     
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    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Don't forget Ruby Ridge or any of the other cliton screw ups. cliton, yes that's how I spell their name. And remember when the JC of Staff tried to exclude her from the top secret meetings? SHTF! LOL!
     
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    Sete Seattle New Member

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    Democracies are a system to failure, our founding fathers new this and gave us a REBUBLIC!

    The Roman empire grew strong and elevated the world as a republic, to this day many things we take for granted came from that republic, such as the width of our railroad tracks-same width as roman chariot wheel track. It was when the Romans became a Democracy their fate was sealed and failure was written.

    Hilary's comments regarding Democracies is the pattern democracies eventually take and why they fail. A Democracy life is generally short 40-50 years is considered on the long side ...

    Remember a Democracy is mob rule, but a Republic is ruled by laws !
     
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