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Current NFA wait times from the ATF

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by TOVO, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. TOVO

    TOVO SW WA. Active Member

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    I just got an email from ATF with the current wait time. I thought some people would find it interesting or depressing depending if you are waiting on an approval.

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  2. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Well now I know what plate tectonics and the NFA have in common.....
     
  3. Iceman04503

    Iceman04503 Portland, or Active Member

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    Is it form 1 or 4 for a sbr or a suppressor?
     
  4. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    both. (I mean, depends)

    are you making it (form 1) or buying already made (form 4)?
     
  5. Iceman04503

    Iceman04503 Portland, or Active Member

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    I want to build a suppressed sbr. So i guess i need to send in 2 Form 1? One for the sbr and one for the suppressor?
     
  6. del_and_bones

    del_and_bones Anchorage, AK Physics Pirate

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    Putting your silencer on your SBR does not constitute manufacturing a new firearm.

    Form 1 SBR
    Submit a Form 1 and get approval then build your SBR. Possible routes include:
    Put a stock on a pistol
    Slap a short upper on an AR
    Press in a short barrel into a receiver

    Form 1 silencer
    Submit a Form 1 and get approval then build your silencer. This includes machining the baffles, endcap, housing, etc. This is a non-trivial task

    Form 4:
    You buy the item from another entity (LLC/corp/trust/person/dealer), submit a Form 4, wait for approval, get approved and enjoy.
     
  7. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    It was 10.5 months for my Form 4 trust; Forms submitted 3/29/13, received stamp 2/12/14.

    According to the NFA tracker most NW forms are taking 10.5 to 11 months if forms were sent last March. I think that little chart is a bit outdated or out-of-synch with reality.
     
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  8. the puma

    the puma Oregon City Active Member

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    I got mine in the mail yesterday. 10 months from date submitted via mail. 8 months from pending....a month earlier than they quoted me.
     
  9. Barone20

    Barone20 Damascus, Or Active Member

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    wow im ready to order my suppressor, but wasnt expecting a 10 month wait. is that gonna continue now
     
  10. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Sure looks like it. I was quoted 10 to 11 months on the form 4 I submitted in September.
     
  11. the puma

    the puma Oregon City Active Member

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    Mine was a form 1 Trust. E-filed forms (trust only) are running about 3-4 months according to NFA Tracker and other anecdotal accounts.
     
  12. HKFooey

    HKFooey SW Washington Active Member

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    Nope - I submitted my form 4 in march of 2013 and got my stamp on 2/22/2014
     
  13. Barone20

    Barone20 Damascus, Or Active Member

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    i heard about the trust thing! how do you work that out and who did you go to. anyone with experience here? what does the trust take/cost to set up.
     
  14. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    It can take every little effort to get a trust made specifically for you. It can cost between $97 and $500 or more. It will depend on how complex your situation is. I had a trust made by GunDocx® Gun Trusts | NW Gun Law Group and have received 3 stamps so far with zero issues.

    Or it can take a lot more effort and cost $0 or whatever Quicken Will costs. You can make your own with the software, or find a more generic trust online and copy that. Obviously, I chose not to go this route, but others have. I'm just more comfortable with a trust purposely written as a NFA trust.

    More trust information (meaning lots more reading for you):

    General Class 3 - AR15.COM
    Oregon Legal links
    http://www.northwestfirearms.com/nfa-weapons/18970-revocable-living-trust.html
     
  15. Mr Smith

    Mr Smith 54 68 65 20 73 74 69 63 6b 73 Active Member

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    Wow. guess the BATFE has either gotten a lot busier, or just gotten lazier in recent years.

    I applied for my stamp at the end of december 08 and got my stamp and can towards the end of march 09. took just under 3 months.

    IIRC it was exactly 12 weeks.

    I used the living trust method.


    Guess if they are going to take this long to approve, I might as well apply for a can right after I buy a lower receiver for my AR build... The rifle will take me several months to acquire all of the parts to put together anyway, and maybe the stamp will be ready for it around the time it is finished.

    or maybe I will just do a form 1 and build my own can.
     
  16. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to believe this isn't willful delay for a not so hidden purpose, but that has occurred to me. I'm 10 months in on a Form 4.....
     
  17. bmarshall

    bmarshall oregon Member

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    Mailed one April 19 2013 received February 24 2014 hope that helps
     
  18. Twodogs

    Twodogs portland Or Active Member

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    Mailed mine in on 4/10/2013 still waiting.