The small amount of expansion (bell) you put in the mouth of the case on 9mm .40, .45 is barely enough to feel a difference between that and an UN-expanded case. If you feel that difference, tightness/binding/resistance at the top of the stroke you've got your crimp! From what you are saying it sounds like you are thinking of a "Roll Crimp" like is used in .38, .44, .45 Colt. If you are seeing a bevel on a 9mm at the top of a case there's a problem. The case mouth is what the round headspaces on, it's important that the mouth of the shell be "Crisp" for lack of a better term.
I suggest, to help you grasp the concept of a taper crimp, you sacrifice a case and, possibly, a bullet. Put a bullet in a dummy round and keep going with the crimp until you fold a case so you get an idea of just how far you can push it before there's (Safe) damage. You do have a bullet puller don't you? And, I keep a small magnifying glass on the bench, comes in handy for all kinds of things.
Mike
I suggest, to help you grasp the concept of a taper crimp, you sacrifice a case and, possibly, a bullet. Put a bullet in a dummy round and keep going with the crimp until you fold a case so you get an idea of just how far you can push it before there's (Safe) damage. You do have a bullet puller don't you? And, I keep a small magnifying glass on the bench, comes in handy for all kinds of things.
Mike