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its grandfathered except you have to get it serialized at an FFL by sometime next year.My reading of the Washington legislation is that if you already have a completed 80% that was finished prior to September 2019 (like how would anyone but yourself know that ), then it's grandfathered in. That didn't change, did it? If it did, I missed it. Is this thread about some Oregon legislation?
Which printer did you go with? It's a thing I want to get into…sooooo.many.options…3d printing is there. I just printed a Glock 20 Frame and Hoffman Tactical lowers are pretty damn durable. There are even true 0% designs like the ARK and the Bidens Bane upper which is in beta at the moment.
And there are reliable 3d printed mags available up to a 77 Round pistol drum mag.
It was not my understanding, nor the understanding of William Kirk, Esq. of Washington Gun Law website, that Washingtonians had to serialize any "ghost gun" completed before September 2019. Our legislation (HB 1705) strictly pre-empted that requirement. HB 1705 states that guns finished after September of 2019 are required to be serialized. Did something change?its grandfathered except you have to get it serialized at an FFL by sometime next year.
thats why I would wait for the ATF ruling before anyone personal serializes their gun. At least dont do it on the blank serial number plate.
There are AR lowers at over 5k (10k?) rounds and glock lowers at a couple thousand printed in plain PLA. As with anything you make it takes some tinkering but if you've done 80% it's about the same as getting an 80% reliable. With some post printing techniques the strength is as high as polymer injection molded frames like glocks.Granted, I don't keep a real tight eye on the 3D world, but everything I've seen, including the recent 3D only competition, tells me... "durable" and "reliable" are subjective. 3D prints, that might mean.. it'll hold together and functions reliably... for awhile, but still a continuous dispose and replace part. Or, in a nearly fully printed firearm, overall lifespan is only a fraction of a conventionally built firearm.
To me, "durable" and "reliable" means... 100% under all conditions for the life of the firearms main conventional components. There is quite a massive gap between those 2 interpretations, IMHO.
Ender 3 Pro but the stock Ender 3 is the standard for PY2A stuff.Which printer did you go with? It's a thing I want to get into…sooooo.many.options…
Nothing changed. Its quite possible that its -my- 'mis'understanding.It was not my understanding, nor the understanding of William Kirk, Esq. of Washington Gun Law website, that Washingtonians had to serialize any "ghost gun" completed before September 2019. Our legislation (HB 1705) strictly pre-empted that requirement. Did something change?
Washington's HB 1705 states that guns finished after September of 2019 are required to be serialized. That's the last I heard.Nothing changed. Its quite possible that its -my- 'mis'understanding.
Its what I thought anyways.
its grandfathered except you have to get it serialized at an FFL by sometime next year.
I dunno. With the new SCOTUS ruling it seems like some of those measures are ripe for renewed challenge. It would be beautiful to see a states infringement laws getting rolled back and shat on.Sounds like the countdown is long over for Washington folks....
Eee-yup! That all went down at the end of the last legislative session in March, along with "high-cap" mags and 2A rights restoration.Sounds like the countdown is long over for Washington folks....
Self marking is not sufficient... from what I understand. Serializing them would require an FFL licensed to apply it under specific guidelines. I'm not an FFL and don't know exactly what that process is, but I believe, in that process the firearm would be at least recorded in the FFL's records and have some type of paperwork or reporting process to the ATF. Just as MFG's do when a new firearm is produced and serialized.And they don't necessarily need to be registered just marked even if so.
showing stuff in stock at 80-lower.com.. pf80 for the major glock styles, and then this "lone wolf" for like have the price... whats up w the lone wolf? any good?links for 80 % glock style and AR lowers??
I've built one with the Lonewolf, the rail attachment is interesting, they are basically glued in, it should be strong enough and i havent had any issues with it. The "machining" was easier but the jig kind of sucks it needs to be clamped in you cant just drill from either side like a polymer 80. Big plus is it fits standard glock holsters. It also is much slimmer then the p80 grip.showing stuff in stock at 80-lower.com.. pf80 for the major glock styles, and then this "lone wolf" for like have the price... whats up w the lone wolf? any good?
that is a big plus. ill grab both.. thanks!I've built one with the Lonewolf, the rail attachment is interesting, they are basically glued in, it should be strong enough and i havent had any issues with it. The "machining" was easier but the jig kind of sucks it needs to be clamped in you cant just drill from either side like a polymer 80. Big plus is it fits standard glock holsters.