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Could We Be Looking at the Start of the Next World War?

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by zeezee, Feb 1, 2011.

  1. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Interesting and thought provoking.

    "Viewers and listeners of Glenn Beck's programs on the radio and on TV are aware that Glenn thinks the unrest in the Middle East is probably going global. He maintains the Mideast, most of North Africa, and possibly as far as parts of Europe and Asia, will become an Islamic Caliphate. The civil war that results from millions of Muslims in the UK, France, Spain, Germany and the rest of the EU seeing the chance for an Islamic state and fighting in the European streets will collapse it while the oil price gyrations destroy the US.

    Pretty bleak. But Bayou Renaissance Man posts the intriguing idea that this could be the lead-in to the Biblical Armageddon. "

    The Silicon Graybeard: Could We Be Looking at the Start of the Next World War?

    Bayou Renaissance Man: The true dimensions of the Egyptian crisis
     
  2. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Islam against the world would be a turkey shoot in and all out shooting war with Islam vs the rest of the world. I look at the turmoil in Egypt and hopefully a regime change as a positive action myself it is definitely not the start of WWIII so don't start panicking just yet. The super powers are pretty much Meh on the whole Egypt thing.

    As for predicting Armageddon it's seems like it's been predicted just to happen every year since Saint John wrote the story.
     
  3. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    Lots of paranoid people out there.
     
  4. sheepdip

    sheepdip Redland Well-Known Member

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    great place for a glass parking lot
     
  5. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    'Al-Qaida on brink of using nuclear bomb'

    "Diplomatic cables obtained by Wikileaks suggest that Al Qaeda is on the verge of producing radioactive weapons. The terrorist organization smuggled uranium and plutonium and recruited rogue scientists to build dirty bombs."

    http://www.usnewssource.com/headlines/wikileaks-cable-warning-al-qaeda-plans-nuclear-911_177526.html

    OK liberals, all gather round, hold hands and lets sing 'give peace a chance'. PUKE!!!!
     
  6. ejmpnu92

    ejmpnu92 Hillsboro, Or Active Member

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    "Can't we all just get along?"
    Yes, I say, as long as I have the superior firepower.
    But seriously, this whole Egyptian uprising could be good or bad, depending upon who ends up in power. If a true democratic electoral process happens and the people are happy that the process happened and they go about their business, then it will be a good thing. If the Islamic Brotherhood (or any other group, but the general fear I am hearing about is about the IB) gets in there and starts messing things up, closing the Suez Canal, causing world wide fear, then it could be bad.
    Not to sure about world war, but war is already upon us.
     
  7. EZLivin

    EZLivin SW of PDX Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTECould We Be Looking at the Start of the Next World War?[/url]
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    I doubt it. Not yet. But I do think we are going to see similar unrest in some European nations. The cause will be escalating food costs, unemployment, decreased (or eliminated) pension benefits and social funding. In essence, European socialism is collapsing under its own weight. That will spark increasing unrest, especially among younger adults.

    These events in the Middle East absolutely blow me away. Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan... wow... I applaud those brave enough to finally stand up and say "Enough!." I don't see this as the start of WWIII, but if it spreads to the oil-rich nations then I will likely become a bit nervous.
     
  8. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    If Beck is right we have a coalition between the Marxist and radical Islam. The Marxist are crashing the world economies and the radical Islam is crashing governments. What this ends up being won’t make you happy.

    jj
     
  9. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    The sad thing here is that even if a suicide bomber detonated in the mid of the above mentioned 'give peace a chance' rally they still wouldn't get it and would try to diagnose just what trauma from their childhood caused it - was it that daddy spanked him or maybe because there were guns in the household - or because they saw goats and chickens slaughtered for food and of course they had a low self esteem because they didn't test well in schools and were downgraded for 2+2=9 how terrible.

    Maybe some day "common sense" will be indeed common instead of something looked down upon by academics with no real world knowledge.
     
  10. akula

    akula Seattle Member

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    Really dude?:bluelaugh:

    So millions and bazillions of Muslims in Europe are all going to rise up all at once like pre programed terminators.

    What are you talking about?

    Just out of curiosity do you even know what a Caliphate is? Other than a scary Muslim word.
     
  11. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    And they seem t be drawn to Beck and his insane ramblings.
     
  12. SheepDog223

    SheepDog223 Salem Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the few things that PBP and I can seem to agree on.
     
  13. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Whether you like, or agree with Beck is irrelevant.
    If anyone thinks that civil unrest across western (Spain, France, England, The Netherlands, Germany, Denmark and possibly Belgium) and eastern Europe (Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey, Azerbaijan) is a good thing lacks critical thinking skills and should bow out of the conversation. These people and their leaders have, time and again, proven that they don't need to take over, They just need to disrupt "business as usual," in a capitalist society.

    And this discussion doesn't even touch on countries with radical muslim influences in Asia and elsewhere.
    Or the effect of Israel's response to being surrounded by radicalized muslim countries.

    Destabilization of these countries and their economies CAN'T be good for the world's well being as a whole. Given that the caliphate is one of the world's first welfare states, this bodes ill for anyone that seeks to maintain their way of life here in the U.S.
    To think that we can stand alone economically, being the target of middle eastern muslim influence, is downright foolish.
    Then there is the aspect of the sunni/shia rivalry, that will surely become a factor as islamic factions push for their version of Sharia to be implemented in countries where they have become the dominant influence.

    Egypt has been a stabilizing influence in the middle east since the Camp David Accords. (and since Israel handed them their azz the last 2 times) If the government there and in Yemen and Tunisia, fall to the influences of the "muslim brotherhood" (read: Hamas/Hezbollah) we are screwed!
    In terms of destabilizing the free world's economies through price of oil, there are few factors as important as the Suez Canal. It doesn't matter that Egypt isn't an OPEC member. They control the canal!
    Couple skyrocketing oil prices with civil disobedience in Europe through rioting etc, and the recipe for disaster will be brought to a boil.

    World war? Probably not in the strictest sense of the term. But it will be hard to tell the difference if that many countries are embroiled in economic and civil upheaval.
     
  14. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Great reply.
     
  15. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Update:At least 100 reported injured in Cairo clashes - <---LINK
    Now to make this disaster complete, all we need is for Obama to allow Mubarak to come to the U.S. for asylum.
    You know, Like Jimmy Carter did with the Shah of(from) Iran in the '70s.

    Deja-Vu anyone?
     
  16. Just Jim

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    Be nice if you could stay on topic rather than troll personalities. I suspect you just don't have any real input on the subject as you are uninformed.

    jj
     
  17. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Then there's this: Analysis: Egypt Turmoil Will Reshape U.S. Role - CBS News <--- LINK
    So, for all you Beck-haterz, apparently the Associated Press is Whack-o too?

    WAKE-UP!!
     
  18. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I was attending college at Kansas State Univ. during this time. There was a group of Iranian students on campus that regularly protested around campus shouting slogans and waving signs that said "Down with the Shah. Down with the U.S.". After the Shah was deposed and the Ayatollah took over the PLF then captured the Aquille Lauro and kidnapped American civilians and killed one.

    Kansas State was not, shall we say, the most culturally diverse University. After that incident some of the cowboys from western Kansas that were on campus would approach a group of swarthy looking gentlemen and ask "Are you Iranian?". The swarthy looking gentlemen would invariably say "NO! I'm Greek!". You couldn't find an Iranian on campus after that. :laugh:
     
  19. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    LOL I would rather get information for myself than be led to agreeing with someone who demonizes Beck. If PP doesn't listen to Beck then how would he know if it's true or not?

    jj
     
  20. EZLivin

    EZLivin SW of PDX Well-Known Member

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    For many months the Trends Institute has been comparing this period of time to the events of the first half of the last century. Their conclusion is: "History is repeating itself: Crash of '29 = Panic of '08. Great Depression = Great Recession. World War II = 1st Great War of 21st century."

    I know this: Global economic system collapsing + world-wide commodity inflation + $US losing world reserve status + European riots + Middle East regime instability = one heckuva interesting 2011.
     
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