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Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by arakboss, Nov 7, 2018.
Or should we all just head to Idaho?
Idaho is full. Burn Portland and Seattle to the ground and start over.
Full? word on the street is there's lots of room over there. I heard Troy is nice
Boise could use some help, it's kinda purple, but the rest of the state is bright red. Oddly enough, even the lefties don't say much about grabbing. Hugely unpopular idea here but I fear that in years to come the fudds might "compromise" if pressured -- just like they do in every other state.
I hear ya. Geographically I think most of OR is gun friendly but the Metro area and now lot's of the populace west of the cascades have gone a different direction. We have plenty of legislative districts that are marginally anti gun and could use a boost from 2A supporters moving in to them. It would be nice to see them come in from other States or Oregon districts that are strongly anti-gun.
Idaho is becoming full of people from California, just like Colorado and Texas. Unfortunately they are bringing their voting patterns along with them.
Would you want syphilis, Aids, and cancer.
Just so you don't die of a heart attack?
There is some truth to that but it's not all bad. Every Californian I've gotten to know since I fled Oregon has been very conservative and freedom loving. Granted, I live outside the Boise metroplex. The downside is that they don't appear to be all that politically active. Like most of us on this forum, they basically want to be left alone to make decisions for themselves.
That seems to be the right's biggest downfall. It's not their nature to get in everyone's faces and try to regulate/legislate every aspect of other people's lives. They feel out of place being a political militant and, unfortunately, that's what the scene has devolved in to.
oregon politics are far too militant and just may start leading the leftist ideology
antifa will show up at anything and the cops will watch
Troy is in Oregon
I was referring to Troy north of Lewiston.
That's the exact same thing that's happened to Washington and Oregon, an influx of progressive liberalism in the big cities where all the yes voters will trip over themselves for any cause the politicians throw at them.
Keep in mind that not every Californian is a coastal liberal. Many who fled California, like me, were raised in much more conservative states. Also, 2A supporters can’t move to Oregon unless there are jobs available.
Avoiding the problem is one solution, I'm still thinking if you ignore and avoid it then it might grow though. Then no place will be safe. The root of the problem I think is ignorance but maybe there is more to it then that.
I'm still hoping it will all just sort itself out in the supreme Court.
At least it wasn't as bad as California with Feinstein or the other worse choice. I know gun owners in that state, I feel so bad for them.
Colorado is another viable option for people in Washington who want to escape the insanity. Your conservative votes go much farther in Colorado than they would in Oregon and the Denver/Fort Collins/CO Springs area has a much stronger economy and job market and lower cost of living than PDX area. I am a native Oregonian who left my home state years ago because I couldn't survive with the high cost of living and high taxes there.
Conservative Californians are as welcome here as conservatives anywhere else. I grew up in Southern Oregon in the state of Jefferson which actually would include Upper Northern California and a lot of Southern Oregon. Upper North Californians are pretty much the same culturally as Oregonians and are great people. They have tried to secede from the state of California for years. If Upper Northern California became its own state I would have considered possibly living there. Redding is not a bad city and Mt Shasta and Shasta-Trinity forest is quite scenic and spectacular. I use to go to Shasta Lake as a kid and ride boats on the lake. I kind of miss that.
I am a recent CA refugee, the laws here are pretty reasonable compared to the Democratic Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. That being said, I think I can see which direction things are going in Oregon. Thank god the supreme court will be loaded in our favor but litigation is a long and expensive process.
Voters are also apathetic in Oregon, so you could fill our state with Pro-2A allies, and folks still wouldn't get off their couch to mail a ballot.
Commie/Socialism is a communicable disease. It is spread by Commie/Socialists moving into a new area to escape the Commie/Socialism from where they used to live. As before stated above, the new arrivals then infect their new host and widely spreads the disease. Therefore this spread of Commie/Socialism happens exactly like syphilis ... you catch it when you get bubblegummed. Ain't no penicillin for Commie/Socialists either!
Socialism is kind of like a religion for the folks that practice/believe in it. The worst thing is that it has been tried all over the world and been a major failure, in most cases. I guess you could argue that China is successful, thanks in no small part to Clinton granting them most favored nation trading status, the rest is history. From what I have observed, its not even naturalized citizens that escaped socialism in their countries of birth that are pushing it here. Observe any democratic sponsored event here in Oregon and you will find mostly gray haired Caucasians in attendance. Did they come from California? are they natives of Oregon, I don't know but I doubt their is any way to "re-educate" them.
Isn't that the truth