Coronavirus 2019 (COVID-19) Official Thread

[Hueco]

bookofjoe: BehindTheMedspeak: Actually, there's no ventilator shortage

bookofjoe: BehindTheMedspeak: Actually, there's no ventilator shortage — Part 2

Manual ventilators

Manually ventilating an adult is a solid amount of work. You'll need a second person to switch out every half hour if you want to maintain any length of time doing this. You'll need two (or better, three) teams of two to allow sleep breaks. You'll be ventilating the person for a week or more (most likely more) and will likely contract the illness on your own in that time. Hopefully that doesn't take you out of commission for ventilating your loved one.

I think we'd all try until we die for a loved one - but let's be real: if you don't have that kind of multi-person manpower and need ventilation, then you're in a bad spot.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Coronavirus Jailbreak: California Gov Commutes Sentences for 14 Killers

California Gov. Gavin Newsom is responding to the coronavirus by commuting the sentences of 14 felons convicted of murder.

www.breitbart.com

WHERE ARE WE HEADED?

I think this prisoner release thing is a lot of the reason for the panic gun buying. People who never had guns are getting worried about their security with unknown future conditions and seeing stuff like these prisoner releases happening.

 

[SUPER X]

I think this prisoner release thing is a lot of the reason for the panic gun buying. People who never had guns are getting worried about their security with unknown future conditions and seeing stuff like these prisoner releases happening.

Many of them have possibly been previous victims

 

[Hop Sing]

I did score some 91% isopropyl at DG a couple days ago. It was pushed back out of site and looked to be on the wrong shelf .The large bottles of 70% were gone a flash .

You can also buy 190 proof grain alcohol for sanitation if things get more dire.

 

[The Heretic]

Manual ventilators

So, you are going to have a respirator tech stand there squishing an ambu bag for hours on end?

 

[RicInOR]

So, you are going to have a respirator tech stand there squishing an ambu bag for hours on end?

Family.
Proposed for NYC are National Guard Troops.


Do I think this is a great solution? No.

 

[MannyGlocks]

National Guard is expected to hand ventilate if necessary?

Is this fact or speculation?

 

[wp4]

Family.
Proposed for NYC are National Guard Troops.


Do I think this is a great solution? No.

That's all that Richard Branson's "ventilator" is, an automated bag squisher. Look at the pics.

Richard Branson's rocket company Virgin Orbit to begin mass producing ventilators

Richard Branson's California-based rocket company Virgin Orbit partnered with medical researchers and developed a ventilator device.

www.google.com

 

[The Heretic]

Family.
Proposed for NYC are National Guard Troops.


Do I think this is a great solution? No.

I would estimate that anyone who is doing hand ventilation would be able to last minutes, not hours.

 

[RicInOR]

National Guard is expected to hand ventilate if necessary?

Is this fact or speculation?

It was in one of the links -- here too.

New York orders thousands of manually operated pump ventilators as coronavirus cases surge: 'This is the alternative'

As the number of coronavirus cases rises in New York, the Empire State prepares to add four more hospitals. The state has also ordered thousands of manual ventilators in preparation for an impending surge in cases.

www.cnbc.com

"Cuomo.

"We're even talking about training National Guard people to learn how to operate this device, which is relatively simple to operate, but you need a lot of people to operate this 24 hours a day for each patient," he said."

 

[albin25]

I suppose you could use one of these to pump a manual ventilator.... And a good book!

 

[CountryGent]

U.S. deaths from the coronavirus exceed 700 in one day, overall toll surpasses China.

 

[RicInOR]

Fauci: Guidance for everyone to wear masks under 'very serious consideration'


After the CDC, WHO, etc. told us not needed. Probable cover for getting stocks to doctors / first responders. Still causes anger.


" Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the White House coronavirus task force could eventually recommend that everyone wear masks to help stop the spread of the disease.

Fauci admitted that such a recommendation could be inhibited by the lack of personal protective equipment. For weeks, public health officials cautioned nonmedical professionals from buying masks as hospitals around the United States struggled to find enough protective equipment for healthcare workers. "

 

[CountryGent]

FDA issues emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug for coronavirus care.

 

[awshoot]

I suppose you could use one of these to pump a manual ventilator.... And a good book!

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You jest, and it's a good one, but in fact, that is how many people address this, except instead of using a person to rock the bar, they use a motor to rock the bar:

Same concept as MIT version: MIT E-VENT | Emergency ventilator design toolbox

 

[RicInOR]

Bridge Magazine reports:

Gov. Whitmer reverses course on coronavirus drugs, is now asking feds for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. "Gov. Gretchen Whitmer drew fire from some on the right after the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs (LARA) sent a letter last week threatening 'administrative action' against doctors who prescribed two experimental drugs that could potentially help coronavirus patients. The Whitmer administration has since removed the language threatening doctors from the letter and is now asking the federal government to send shipments of the drugs, Bridge magazine reports."


edit: fixed name of magazine.

Facing shortages, Michigan asks feds for experimental coronavirus drugs | Bridge Michigan

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s administration is “pursuing a request” for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine from the federal government’s Strategic National Stockpile

www.bridgemi.com

 

[Cavedweller]

Hong Kong on lockdown again as 2nd wave hits:

"Case numbers have since more than tripled as residents who had flown overseas for work, study or simply to escape the first lockdown have come back, bringing the virus with them. The few now allowed to enter must self-quarantine for two weeks, either at home or in hotels such as those run by Dorsett, and they're cuffed with bracelets connected to a location-tracking app. Offices are mostly closed."

Breakingviews - Hong Kong rues taking off its face mask

Hotels in Hong Kong are thronging with guests once more. Some of Dorsett Hospitality International’s local properties are fully booked this week, but it’s not because of an influx of tourists. The company is offering 14-night packages costing just over $700. The occupants...

www.reuters.com

 

[RicInOR]

What getting a test is like - skip to 7:00

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Hope this isn't a repost.

New antibody test could potentially tell if u r clear to work. Takes 10 min costs and costs a couple dollars. If this test works then anyone who shows they have the antibodies could go back to work, meaning economy could get back on track quicker.

Of course would only apply to those who had it and were asymptomatoc or had it and thought they had the flu etc. So it will be more important down the road a ways than it would be today. But this could be a huge deal in terms of getting poeple back to work.

Coronavirus: Trials under way for new antibody tests before becoming widely available

The new tests identifies antibodies made in response to the infection, even if people have had mild or no symptoms.

www.google.com

 

[WillametteWill]

Some math not adding up here. Announcements that we could lose 240,000 in the US to COVID. Same news, model predicts peak of 2,400 in a day mid April. 10 days of this "peak" number would be 24K or 10% of the total number being thrown around. It would take 100 days at this level to reach 240k. (I understand there we be more before and after the peak on the curve.) I'm not saying either could not be true, they just seem incongruous. Anyone else seeing a lot of official-ish numbers not adding up?