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Coos County putting up a fight against 941

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Mikej, Oct 21, 2015.

  1. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    albin25 Lewiston Idaho Well-Known Member

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    There's hope...but only if you don't read the brain dead comments section!:rolleyes::mad:
     
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  3. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I sent the author a note with a link to the actual numbers of background checks being done for private sales.
     
  4. xlsbob

    xlsbob coos county Platinum Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    I just mailed in my vote, hopefully it works. Honestly the latest rule changes don't seem to be much of a priority here anyway.
     
  5. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    As said in the article, it is "symbolic"

    The sheriffs may not enforce this particular state law, but in practice they won't be the ones doing the stings anyway - it will be the state police. Even if the law was enacted and upheld in court, which it won't be, a county ordinance can't prevent state police from enforcing a state law.

    So, waste of time IMO
     
  6. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    This evening I had the news on from 4:00 until near 6:30, (unusual for me as television news people and the way they report are unbearable most of the time). I never heard them mention anything of this.

    At least it's out there. One step at a time and all......
     
  7. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    Yeah... that's what they said about medical marijuana, and then recreational marijuana. And dozens of other voter initiatives in Oregon over the years.

    There has to be first steps of the grass roots "we the people" speaking out and acting when bad laws are forced upon citizens by the rulers for there to ever be any change - or change back to our Constitutional rights "shall not be infringed" as in this case.

    Unless the lay downs just want to roll over and quit like good little subjects of the dictators.
     
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  8. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    But remember, the puppy lays down and rolls over because the trainer is holding a dog biscuit.
    The left has a whole box full of biscuits, from SNAP cards to obamaphones, to medical ins., to immigration amnesty.

    AND, they are shameless about offering them to newly registered voters.
     
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    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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  10. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    And despite the fact that marijuana is legal in many states, including Oregon, you can still get busted by the DEA (despite Obama telling them not to) and hauled into federal court, and the State of Oregon legal system can't do diddly squat about it because federal law usually trumps state law.

    By all means, protest, make noise, show them that we don't like it.

    But don't pretend that passing a county law means like this means anything in a court of law if you get busted for breaking a state law.
     
  11. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Killjoy! :p
     
  12. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    You missed the point. You have to make a start. A demonstration is one thing, but a duly elected government enacting a voter initiative is a much louder statement and much firmer start on the road to legitimizing it. Especially in Oregon where the initiative process is one of the most successful tools of self governance.

    Or people can stay on their couch, watch tv and fix nothing. And then bytch about Salem.
     
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  13. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    San fran said F U to the feds concerning sanctuary cities so why not bgc's
     
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  14. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    You are making good sense, if they can pick the laws they will follow just by a declaration then we can too. If our county sheriff's decide to not enforce bgc then it is a gun sanctuary county.
     
  15. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I agree with standing up and being heard.

    But don't fool yourself or anyone else into thinking that this means the county would become any kind of "sanctuary". :rolleyes:
     
  16. xlsbob

    xlsbob coos county Platinum Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Personally I feel it's more just making a statement. Southern Oregon is more gun friendly at the county level than the areas with the larger populations. If background checks were on a county level we could be on to something, unfortunately they aren't.
     
  17. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I guess that is why you have been so big in the end of society prepping, you have given up and think everything else is foolish. If preppers would have spent the same time and money on better politics would they still need to prep?

    Good friend was kind of a preper, he built retirement so he and his wife would be secure in their old age. Navy pension and came out as an officer. Worked in private industry to get enough time to collect minimum SS and then went to work for the state to get a state pension. Died just before he would have retired of Parkinsons.
     
  18. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Wow, that reminds me of people that insist on "voting their conscience."

    I agree with standing up to be heard too.
    But don't fool yourself or anyone else into thinking you've made a difference, or affected the outcome in any sort of positive way.
    :rolleyes:
     
  19. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    Prepper depending on pension checks & SS? Huh?
    Watched The Postman a few too many times...
    :D
     
  20. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    We all have different fears we prep for, he didn't want to be like his folkes, poor and no money. He did everything right but didn't live to get it...