Concealed rifle center console

Drat · Nov 6, 2012

Bastidge what your saying is with an Oregon chl, you may open carry loaded, both pistol and rifle. I get the city ordinance exemption, but I still don't see how having loaded rifles and shotguns in a center console would be legal. Make me understand.

Nwcid · Nov 6, 2012

Drat said:
Bastidge what your saying is with an Oregon chl, you may open carry loaded, both pistol and rifle. I get the city ordinance exemption, but I still don't see how having loaded rifles and shotguns in a center console would be legal. Make me understand.

Because there is no law in OR that says you can not..........

Laws are written to tell you the things you can not do. If there is no law against it then it is legal.

Drat · Nov 6, 2012

Really? I thought you had to have the rifle or shotgun unloaded and magazine and rifle had to be separate and away from direct acces to the driver, like a trunk. The loaded open carry exception wouldn't seem to apply to a loaded rifle in a concealed center console to me.

fd15k · Nov 6, 2012

Drat said:
Really? I thought you had to have the rifle or shotgun unloaded and magazine and rifle had to be separate and away from direct acces to the driver, like a trunk. The loaded open carry exception wouldn't seem to apply to a loaded rifle in a concealed center console to me.

166.250(a) prohibits concealed firearms upon a person. 166.250(b) prohibits concealed handguns in a vehicle. So a long gun concealed in a vehicle is not prohibited.

Nwcid · Nov 6, 2012

Drat said:
Really? I thought you had to have the rifle or shotgun unloaded and magazine and rifle had to be separate and away from direct acces to the driver, like a trunk. The loaded open carry exception wouldn't seem to apply to a loaded rifle in a concealed center console to me.

When it comes to laws it is much better to know then to think. Here are the OR laws that apply to firearms, http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/chapter/166 I assume you live in OR so read them and know them if you own/carry firearms there. Again if you read the law you will see none of the things you "think" in there.

Drat · Nov 7, 2012

Thanks for the advice. You're my hero.

ob1 · Nov 7, 2012

Sorry but I just don't buy the concept that the Oregon CHL covers anything but a handgun. In the ORS citation you provide, you are trying to read it like is a limiting instrument on the states authority to enforce concealed carry, like reading the bill of rights. (in other words. if it doesn't specifically say you can't, you can). That is not what you are dealing with in this provision.

Remember, this refers to a individual who has obtained a state issued permit / license to carry a concealed handgun , period. The obvious key words being "handgun", "permit" and "concealed".

A state issued fishing license does not enable you to shoot an elk, nor does a state issued drivers license authorize you to fly a 747.

Any "permit" is specificly written to describe the things that you can do with it, not the dozens of things that you are not allowed to do, so just because it doesn't say you can't use it to conceal a rifle, shotgun, long blade knife, grenade..... won't give you the authority to do so..

fd15k · Nov 7, 2012

ob1 said:
Sorry but I just don't buy the concept that the Oregon CHL covers anything but a handgun. In the ORS citation you provide, you are trying to read it like is a limiting instrument on the states authority to enforce concealed carry, like reading the bill of rights. (in other words. if it doesn't specifically say you can't, you can). That is not what you are dealing with in this provision.

Remember, this refers to a individual who has obtained a state issued permit / license to carry a concealed handgun , period. The obvious key words being "handgun", "permit" and "concealed".

A state issued fishing license does not enable you to shoot an elk, nor does a state issued drivers license authorize you to fly a 747.

Any "permit" is specificly written to describe the things that you can do with it, not the dozens of things that you are not allowed to do, so just because it doesn't say you can't use it to conceal a rifle, shotgun, long blade knife, grenade..... won't give you the authority to do so..