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Concealed Carry

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Tactical SS, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. Tactical SS

    Tactical SS Washington Member

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    What places can you not carry concealed even with a permit?

    I've read that you can't carry into a place that has a 21+ age restriction, but I've also read that you can't carry into a place that sells alcohol. On the other side of that I've read that you can't carry into a place that serves alcohol. Any info would be appreciated.

    TIA :thumbup:

    EDIT: Well I've never found this before... http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.300

    So "That portion of an establishment classified by the state liquor control board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age" meaning that you can carry in a restaurant, but not into the bar section of that restaurant?
     
  2. JumpWing

    JumpWing NK WA Member

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    As I understand it, you cannot carry (concealed or otherwise) in a place that sells alcohol for on-premises consumption and has a 21+ age restriction. So a steakhouse that serves wine or beer doesn't qualify, but a bar does. You can carry in a liquor store because the alcohol they sell is not for consumption on the premises, and the store is not 21+ only.

    Other places you cannot carry at all include public schools, courthouses, and jailhouses/prisons.

    I'm not aware of any places where having a CPL makes the difference between carrying and not carrying (except for traveling in a vehicle). Having a CPL only determines HOW you can carry.

    Hopefully someone can chime in with some bonafide law on this.
     
  3. packman

    packman coast Active Member

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    you can carry in a place thats sells alcohol you can not carry while under the influence of intoxicants. you can carry in a public school but staff cannot. courthouses,post office[fed building] and jails and prisons are forbotten. please correct me with the ors if i am wrong i don't wish to loose my chl this applies to oregon statute
     
  4. holypaper

    holypaper unincorporated King County, WA New Member

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    There's a great booklet available to Washingtonians called "Washington State Gun Rights and Responsibilities" by Dave Workman. As far as drinking establishments go, you cannot carry into bars or bubblegums, but you can into restaurants that serve alcohol as long as you sit in the restaurant part, rather than in the bar part.

    You cannot carry into Safeco Field or Qwest Field. Any privately owned establishment can restrict you from carrying.

    You cannot carry into any establishment being used exclusively by a public or private school.

    Universities each set their own policies. Most have some restrictions; the U of W completely bans concealed carry.

    At the Convention Center, you can carry; but groups leasing space there may restrict your right to carry at their events. These are the main restricted areas, other than the obvious, like when you see a metal detector.

    Rabid anti-selfdelusionist :)
     
  5. jenninge

    jenninge Oregon New Member

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    Oregon Law states: Possession of a Concealed Handgun License does not authorize you to carry a firearm on any of the following properties: Any Federal facility. (i.e., Federal Court House, Post Office, Social Security Office, in airports, and on airplanes). This does not prohibit the carrying of firearms on federal lands, other than designated wilderness areas, incident to hunting or other lawful purposes. National Forests marked or posted by signs prohibiting all firearms. You may not carry a firearm concealed while upon an Indian Reservation/Indian property without the written permission of the tribal judge. This may also apply to certain casinos that are on the Indian lands. In a courtroom, jury room, judge's chambers or the areas adjacent thereto that the presiding judge determines should be free of firearms to ensure the safety of the litigants, court personnel, witnesses and others. Additionally, many private businesses have conditions regarding the possession of firearms on their premises. If you violate these conditions you could, under certain circumstances, be subject to arrest under Oregon trespass laws, in which case your concealed handgun license would be seized and/or revoked.

    Everything I have read says you can carry in a bar inless the "Private Business" has a condition on this. And even at that, they can not prevent you from carrying but they can prevent you from staying in their business.
     
  6. mallard8767

    mallard8767 Portland Member

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    I would like to mention quickly that washington and oregon laws concerning drinking and concealed carry are different.....
     
  7. jenninge

    jenninge Oregon New Member

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    Its amazing how much gun laws differ from Oregon and Washington.
     
  8. packman

    packman coast Active Member

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    Additionally, many private businesses have conditions regarding the possession of firearms on their premises. If you violate these conditions you could, under certain circumstances, be subject to arrest under Oregon trespass laws, in which case your concealed handgun license would be seized and/or revoked.

    this is incorrect as far as i know a private business can have a no carry policy.if you violate this you can be asked to leave if you don't then you can be arrested for criminal tresspassing. if i am wrong please post the statute so i will not get into trouble for being ill informed
     
  9. JumpWing

    JumpWing NK WA Member

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    You can be trespassed from private property if the owner/manager/etc asks you to leave, regardless of the reason. It doesn't matter whether you are asked to leave because of a holstered weapon or because you smell bad, it's just trespassing and (at least in Washington) has no bearing on your CPL or right to carry.