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Colt double action cylinder turns with hammer down.

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by starislon, May 4, 2011.

  1. starislon

    starislon Astoria, OR Member

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    Cylinder locks tight with hammer back but can easily be turned to left with hammer down, is this a serious problem? If so, what are possible repair costs I would be be looking at? And is this a problem that should have been disclosed by the seller?

    I thank all responders in advance.
     
  2. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Of course it should have been disclosed, if you have a "look over" period I would send it back & demand a refund
     
  3. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This is a timing problem. Have you shot the revolver? Is it shaving lead? Yes, it should have been disclosed by the seller if they were aware that there was a timing problem.
     
  4. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

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    Did you buy it on the forum?

    Did you have any inspection before you bought?

    Do you know if this is the way it is suppose to work or not
     
  5. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    When the trigger is pulled and held as if you were firing it, does the cylinder remained locked? or ?? Also a little more info on the pistol would be great... what vintage Colt? cal? is it a Python?

    Some old H&R pistols functioned like you describe, but not Colts!
     
  6. oa98pistol512

    oa98pistol512 salem area Member

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    Absolutely not... sounds like the spring that locks the cylinder (on bottom) may be weak or broken
     
  7. starislon

    starislon Astoria, OR Member

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    Thanks for all the replies. They have been very helpful. In answer to the Velzey question re: vintage, the S/N indicates 1915 as year of production, a 1st issue police positive special in 32/20. And when the trigger is pulled either in SA or DA, and held in the rearward position the cylinder does remain locked.

    gunnails: I purchased off of Gunbroker.com and it does have a three day inspection period. I did not have the opportunity to inspect before purchase.

    Cougfan2: I will ask to return to seller for refund as it has three day inspection period.

    Billdeserthills: I will be asking for refund.
     
  8. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Well, whatever you do, don't tell anyone at Gunbroker if you have fired the gun, three day inspection does not allow for firing of gun.
     
  9. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Ok it does sound like a weak or broken bolt spring (as oa98 mentions). Not to hard to replace, but to have a smith do it would be $75

    I would ask for a partial refund to cover the cost for repair, or just get a full refund and find another!
     
  10. starislon

    starislon Astoria, OR Member

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    oa98pistol512:

    I just now opened the envelope containing the seller's FFL and invoice and found a spring like device about 1 1/2" long that looks something like a Christmas tree ornament attachment with a loop on one end and the other end bent down at a 90 degree angle about one half inch from the end. Also found in the bubble wrap accompanying the firearm was a spring like device of a heavier gauge about one inch in length that also has a 90 degree bend running about 2/8ths of a inch that then bends again 90 degrees to run parallel to the open end with a loop at the end.
    i have now found a diagram of the Colt Police Positive Special in a Numrich catalog, but see no spring that comes close to my description of two spring like devices found in envelope with invoice or in bubble wrap. What is the name of the spring you mention?
    Thanks
     
  11. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    That should definitely not be happening. Have seen a number of problem Colts incluidng a Python and a few Smiths - speaking only of the better quality DA guns. If you're not familiar with the internals, I'd get a qualfied person to look at it. Might also ask the seller what the bag of spare parts was for.
     
  12. starislon

    starislon Astoria, OR Member

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    Browning55:

    Thanks for your reply. I have sent the gun back to the dealer for a refund, which he has agreed to.
     
  13. starislon

    starislon Astoria, OR Member

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    Please close thread