CNN Article: Gun Control is Not the Answer

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  1. fyrediver

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  2. Both Eyes Open

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    Good article, thanks for posting!
     
  3. oknow

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    Coming from cnn That sound like it was written on April 1st. Couldn't believe what I was reading.
     
  4. Liberty97045

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    I watched a great interview on Fox with Col Oliver North who made the point that the shooter might not have been able to continue as long as he did had it not been a gun free zone.
    I did not know but then president Bill Clinton made military bases "gun free zones" by executive order.
     
  5. Morpheus

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    This is a really well written editorial position. He critiques both sides who are just yelling back and forth with acquisitions and not addressing the overall problem with the person responsible.

    I wonder if CNN will fire him for not following the party line...
     
  6. RicInOR

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    The military base restriction on firearms was courtesy of George Bush. HW. Clinton did make some modifications; but the ban wasn't lifted by George Bush, W, either.

    Bi-Partisan anti- trust of our military members.


    I would think that soldiers, sailors, air men and marines, (and coasties) who have a pistol qualification badge, could be trusted with their personal weapons on base, off duty.

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    And those who are pulling duty with a weapon should have access to the ammo for the weapon.

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    LZ is about as flaming as it gets for liberals. I was impressed to see this out of him. While there is truth that a majority of control talk comes from the left, its a good reminder that there are those on the left that see the real reason for violence and who understand that we are not all bad guys with guns.
     
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    I don't know the extent of the Clinton or Bush 41 'gun free zone' EOs, but we couldn't have personal weapons on base even back in the early 80s unless they were stored at the armory and we certainly couldn't walk around with firearms unless we were on actual guard duty with issued weapons. I'm also sure this restriction extended much farther back than when I was in.

    Keith
     
  9. oknow

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    personel guns were allowed in base housing in 85 when I got out.
     
  10. trainsktg

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    I hadn't considered base housing, but definitely not in the barracks where a majority lived.

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  11. RedRiderRepeatingBBGun

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    Can't believe I've never seen this, I will be making and posting copies wherever allowed and appropriate. If I lived closer to Parkrose Hardware I'd give them a copy .... ;-)
     
  12. BAMCIS

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    I got out of the USMC in 1988 and it never occurred to me that I couldn't have my guns so I never asked, and nobody seemed to mind. Boy how times change.
     
  13. Brutus57

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    Same here in 83, we just had to fill out a form with the weapon data for the base cops.

    Brutus Out
     
  14. Trick

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    That article mostly made sense to me....shocking.
     
  15. Modeler

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    Here's a similar one from Politico:

    Opinion: The impossibility of gun control - Rich Lowry - POLITICO.com

    Best quote:

    Maybe, just maybe, this time we can have a real debate about mental illness. To this point, we’ve had a simplistically instrumental focus. It’s like seeing a mad man wearing a tinfoil hat to protect himself from radio waves and thinking, “That’s a shame, if only we could ban tinfoil.”
     
  16. meener777

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    This part got me, because he seems to miss the fallacy in this pro-gun control "factoid":
    "This conundrum is just one example why making note that more Americans have died from gun violence here at home since Newtown than in the nine years fighting a war in Iraq is the kind of factoid that grabs our attention but undermines the true goal: curtailing the violence."

    The fallacy is that there are vastly more people in the US than the number of troops at war. In order to compare these numbers of fatalities, we must at the very least divide by the population size. Lots of people who quote numbers about gun homicides fail to consider this. ( *ahem Pierce Morgan* )
     

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