Discussion in 'Rifle Classifieds' started by arjunki, Nov 14, 2009.
I'd really be interested in one of the Yugos. Waiting for pics. Thanks.
Thanks for the pics. I'd really be interested in the yugo with the stock that has a laminated appearance, although both look excellent. Pm coming your way .
would you barter for mechanic work
No, but thanks for the offer
I'll buy the Norinco from you for 200.00. Send me a pm if interested.
Are either of these still available?
Yes, both still available. Great prices too. Must be to close to X-mas. Good thing I'm in no hurry!
Too bad your not in WA , do you ever travel up here?
Sorry, not legal
Its legal if DrDave has a C&R.
What's a C&R?
Command & Reconnaissance?
Control and Restraint?
Compromise & Release?
Convoy and Routing?
Circumvention and Recovery?
Compress and Retransmit?
Careless and Reckless?
Control & Restrain?
Communist Relations ?
No really, what is it?
A "C and R" is a type of Federal Firearm License that allows one to buy and sell "curio and relic" type firearms. Curio and Relic. C and R.
Ah, sorry for being sarcastic. Just bored. Thanks for clearing that up though. i really didn't know. And i don't know if that make it legal either. Do you?
I honestly DO NOT know if having a C&R FFL makes it legal to buy and sell across State lines. I would THINK that since it is a type of FFL, you would be legal in those regards. However I do not know for certain.
I am sure someone else would know more about that end of it than I do.
You are welcome by the way. Happy to help a little bit.
In your case, Arjunki, any C&R eligible pistol or longgun (like an SKS) can be shipped to any C&R (03 FFL) holder anywhere in the country, even if the original seller (you) is not an FFL holder. Pat Burns at Gunsnammo is a classic example of this. She is a non-licensed individual that has been selling her 'collection' of C&R eligible rifles (over 10,000!) via the internet for years. Some state laws preclude certain types of firearms from being owned, so you'd have to be careful there. For instance, an SVT (C&R eligible WWII semi-auto) is illegal in New York state because it is considered an assault weapon...their ban didn't expire in 2004, unlike the federal ban. If you do sell the SKS to a C&R individual out of state, you must get a signed copy of their license for your records. If you are both in-state residents without C&Rs, then no exchange of license or other information is necessary...If either of you is a C&R holder, then whoever has the C&R must get the other's name and address for their bound book. If you are both C&R holders, then each of you must obtain the other's signed license copy. And so on and so forth. Confused yet? Yeah, me too . Bureaucrats...
Direct pistol and rifle sales to non-FFL holders are forbidden by any FFL across state lines. The firearms must be shipped to an in-state 01 FFL (your regular gunshop or pawnshop is an 01 FFL) then transfered to the non-licensed individual. Face to face sales are different, I believe. For instance, Big 5 in Moses Lake, Washington was OK with selling me a long gun face to face with just my Oregon driver's ID (they specifically asked that I did not use my C&R as they weren't set up to do that kind of transfer). They sell like this to folks from any adjoining state. Pistols mayyy be different in this regard, but I'm not sure.
As far as private sales of pistols or long guns between private, non-FFL, individuals from different states, face to face, I don't believe there are any federal law preventing this, other than neither party can be a felon, as it is illegal for any convicted felon to own or use a firearm. As far as I know, if you get a name, address and DL number, that's just protecting you if that firearm is ever used to commit a crime, but even that is not required by law.
Please, if I'm wrong in any of this, someone correct me...quick .
I think I'll just stick to ftf in Oregon for now but thanks for explaining.
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