Clinton: Australia-type mandatory buy back 'worth a try'

[The Heretic]

Keep that one going Hillary... you are on to something... a political cliff.

Never mind the math behind it either. Let's say those automatic thingies, we have 200 million of. On average the cost would be between 500-1000$ per piece. 100b$-200b$. That's a lot of money. Quod erat demonstrandum: advocat non calculat.

The mandatory buyback would come with a mandatory schedule of prices. Probably pennies on the dollar, so I wouldn't go too far down that road as an argument against it.

That said, isn't there something in the Constitution about "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." (5th Amendment)?

That alone would probably hold it up in court for quite a few years I would think.

I am sure this is mostly posturing. The POTUS cannot make law, and whoever the POTUS is, they would have to deal with Congress, which is mostly GOP IIRC.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

We need to buy the election, just like the old days.
How about a brick of .22lr ammo for every Republican candidate vote.
That will get them into the voting booth.

I don't think ammo floats the progs boat. You're gonna have to up the ante to sway an anti!

 

[jbett98]

Not for anti's, just lazy gun owners.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Not for anti's, just lazy gun owners.

Oh!, A few lazy types out there allright. The sad thing is we have too many gun owners who believe in the Bloomberg Prog propaganda that gun free zones and restrictions on citizens will reduce violence and deaths including suicide. They dismiss how Cities like Chicago and Detroit have all these laws and things are worse.

We also have the, "I'm a Hunter and I own a Deer rifle but....." types who like to hunt but don't really believe in the 2nd A. The Dem politicians like to quote them all the time.

We also have died in the wool Democrats who don't realize the Progs have taken over their party. They also might be pro 2ndA but believe our Constitution will save us from the worst of the promises of the anti-gun Dem politicians. "What's a little 10 round limit law compared to my PERS or guaranteed raise or......"

 

[boogerhook]

The mandatory buyback would come with a mandatory schedule of prices. Probably pennies on the dollar, so I wouldn't go too far down that road as an argument against it.

That said, isn't there something in the Constitution about "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." (5th Amendment)?

That alone would probably hold it up in court for quite a few years I would think.

I am sure this is mostly posturing. The POTUS cannot make law, and whoever the POTUS is, they would have to deal with Congress, which is mostly GOP IIRC.

Eminent domain "condemnation" requires fair and just compensation. Our 5th actually requires "public use", rather than "public benefit" (such as an increase in public safety). Not sure it would hold for confiscation.

 

[USMC-03]

I am sure this is mostly posturing. The POTUS cannot make law, and whoever the POTUS is, they would have to deal with Congress, which is mostly GOP IIRC.

Agreed, but at the same time, when has a GOP controlled Congress shown any inclination to step up and do battle with President Obama over any of his unconstitutional acts? They have given up on the power of the purse, taken impeachment off the table, basically bent over and taken everything dished out. The answer is in the States and citizens, not in Washington D.C.

 

[boogerhook]

Only problem will be the gun they allow you to buy costs many thousands of dollars. It does come with a watch though. Don't worry about the way it looks, it's "Smart".
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apart from the caliber, which looks like a .11 LR, these guns need electricity and software - and after 10 generations of Windows we still need to reboot when it's the least convenient. It would not be different with smart guns.

 

[boogerhook]

We have to get all gun owners to vote for the republican candidate.
No matter who he or she is.

I have come to the same conclusion. We have 3 supreme court justices in their eighties - well above the average retirement age of 78.7. These seats will likely vacate during the next term and need to be filled. There is exceptionally much at stake during the coming term.

 

[Deebow]

Something for them to keep in mind.

 

[Cherpybird]

The Hill on Hillary: Australia's forced buy-back 'worth looking at'

The Hill reported Friday afternoon that Democrat front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton has apparently doubled down on her gun control mantra by telling an audience in New Hampshire earlier in the day that Australia's forced "buy back" of civilian firearms "is worth looking at."

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Less to do with her politics and more to do with her character. This woman will say anything for votes, and I expect would prove to be the dirtiest president we've had in some time. If it has to be a democrat, I'd rather it be Sanders, at least he seems to apply a little reason to his thought process before he opens his trap.

 

[boogerhook]

Being from Europe originally, I have less fear of Bernie's socialistic tendencies than Hillary's disregard of the Constitution and disregard for the American people in general. He is a bit of a push-over (see Seattle visit), but at least a decent person.

 

[mrblond]

" come one come all. vote for the Republican party and get yourself a nice, shiny new bag o weed! "

 

[Cherpybird]

Being from Europe originally, I have less fear of Bernie's socialistic tendencies than Hillary's disregard of the Constitution and disregard for the American people in general. He is a bit of a push-over (see Seattle visit), but at least a decent person.

Same here. I don't think Clinton's on anyones side but her own. She has tunnel vision and wants to be the first female president.

Young voters may vote for her based on that alone, and Sanders appeals to a lot of angry hippies young and old. Any Republican candidate has to figure out how to appeal to younger voters, and voters across the board without alienating people.

 

[Just Jim]

I doubt that most people here realize what the Clintons will do to your gun rights. Too bad you don't know their history and how many lives were lost by the way they governed. Ya'll just don't know...

 

[Cherpybird]

I doubt that most people here realize what the Clintons will do to your gun rights. Too bad you don't know their history and how many lives were lost by the way they governed. Ya'll just don't know...

People in Europe follow US politics fairly closely. The Clinton era was a bit of a circus from what I recall. It is pretty obvious who was pulling the strings while Bill was in office though, and I'm not surprised he slept with his secretary. It was maybe the only indiviual action he ever took.

 

[Just Jim]

Well notice that some of the very anti gun people from the Clintons administration went to work for bummer. Fast and furious was no fluke, it was a direct effort to sell guns to criminals in a hope they use them in America. Holder was part of the Clintons crew.

It gets far worse than that..

 

[boogerhook]

I am old enough to remember the Clinton White House...

I did not care about Bill's extramarital activities, BUT I did & do care about "Travelgate (that was plain abuse of power)", "Vince Foster (book by Chris Ruddy - interesting for gunners also because our very own Mas Ayoob was an expert witness on the revolver with which Vince supposedly killed himself)", "Whitewater", Clinton's signing of the "Iraqi Liberation Act (which called for the ousting of Hussein)", Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich and a bunch of FALN members, while Hillary ran for Senate. The entire Clinton Foundation setup is highly controversial as large contributions come from foreign countries such as the Ukraine, while Hillary is Secretary of State.

Their only excuse, if any, the "end justifies the means". It's a highly elitist approach and fits the profile of a "benevolent dictator", but does not work in a democracy. Immanuel Kant on morality, if you don't believe me ;-)

 

[Just Jim]

If you really look into this, here is just one person that played a big role in 911 and crashing the economy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Gorelick

 

[Just Jim]

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/jamie-gorelick-mistress-of-disaster.html?m=1

 

[boogerhook]

that's an unfortunate last name too, for a democrat