Classified listings are being stolen and are being listed on GB.

[CountyWorker]

Here are two of them.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899794662

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899841890

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[TTSX]

The NR status of the seller is a red flag.

 

[66PonyCar]

You can report the listing as fraudulent to Gunbroker.

 

[nammac]

Here are two of them.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899794662

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899841890

You have proof they are fraudulent, then report them to gunbroker, there's a link to do so. Seeing more and more of this on gunbroker.

I only deal with well established sellers.

 

[trevi]

Yes, i started watermarking mine with silly wordings.

 

[CountyWorker]

You have proof they are fraudulent, then report them to gunbroker, there's a link to do so. Seeing more and more of this on gunbroker.

I only deal with well established sellers.

Yes and already done. The link you are referring to sucks. You just have to go to Help.

https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/seekins-precision-nx15.371346/#post-2937385

 

[nammac]

I'm seeing more and more of this. Some are dumb enough to steal gunbroker listing information and replicate the fraudulent listing verbatim pictures and all. Sad, it used to be a good resource.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Yes, i started watermarking mine with silly wordings.

We need to start watermarking with "If this is for sale on GB it's a scam"

 

[NW Backpacker]

Here are two of them.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899794662

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899841890

How did you happen to notice they were the same? Good catch however you did it!

When we see such ads, how do we know which was posted first, and if perhaps they are both legit; for example, if the seller is listing on both web sites?

Also, how do we know the NWFA item isn't the fraudulent listing?

We need to start watermarking with "If this is for sale on GB it's a scam"

Excellent idea! Except if I am a GB seller, and I want to post a scam sale on NWFA, I'd watermark it with your proposed text. Hmmmmm......

 

[JohnnyMac]

Except if I am a GB seller, and I want to post a scam sale on NWFA, I'd watermark it with your proposed text.

The OP was referencing people stealing NWFA pics and using them on GB hence that particular watermark. When it comes down to it, if you were a GB seller and wanted to post a scam sale on NWFA, you can do that now, so no difference going that direction.

Maybe "For sale by JohnnyMac on NWFA only"

 

[CountyWorker]

How did you happen to notice they were the same? Good catch however you did it!

When we see such ads, how do we know which was posted first, and if perhaps they are both legit; for example, if the seller is listing on both web sites?

Also, how do we know the NWFA item isn't the fraudulent listing?



Excellent idea! Except if I am a GB seller, and I want to post a scam sale on NWFA, I'd watermark it with your proposed text. Hmmmmm......

There aren't many Seekins rifles for sale and I noticed that the photos were identical, but the GB ad showed a shipped from address in CA and it was a brand new seller. The ad on this site was posted by a member who had been here for a few years, with a half a dozen feedbacks. The second ad was posted by the same seller, so I searched "Anaconda" on this site and bingo. It didn't take much Inspector Clouseau work to figure it out.

 

[SrMachoSolo]

Classified section is viewable to anyone, not just logged in members (maybe the admins have decided to keep it as such), so watermarking is a good idea.

-Robert

 

[dbg19]

Here are two of them.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899794662

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899841890

Happened to me this week. I reported it. No response, no action taken. Looks like the item sold too. Hopefully the winner actually ends up getting the optics ready FN 509T they just paid for.

The scammer changed image 1 and 2 around, but that's my gun, my coffee table, my photos and my description. The scammer even listed it as new when my ad that he copy and pasted says used with 150 rounds through it.

My listing
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899454848

Stolen listing
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899685843

 

[cigars]

Can you take out an ad on GB using the same photo again and telling people that the other guy is a scammer?

 

[dbg19]

Can you take out an ad on GB using the same photo again and telling people that the other guy is a scammer?

I went back in and updated my listing with a warning at the top. I stated exactly what the scammer did, and then I posted his item number in bold right at the top of my listing. I went back to check on the scammer's listing a few hours later to see if GB took any action, and someone had already bought his non-existent gun using the "Buy Now" feature. I'm wondering what GB's liability is on this or if the buyer is simply SOL.

 

[cigars]

I went back in and updated my listing with a warning at the top. I stated exactly what the scammer did, and then I posted his item number in bold right at the top of my listing. I went back to check on the scammer's listing a few hours later to see if GB took any action, and someone had already bought his non-existent gun using the "Buy Now" feature. I'm wondering what GB's liability is on this or if the buyer is simply SOL.

I guess that's the best that anyone could do. Too bad that someone else will have to deal with that scammer though. Too bad that GB doesn't seem to care or have a solution.

 

[CountryGent]

The NR status of the seller is a red flag.

A big one at that.

You have proof they are fraudulent, then report them to gunbroker, there's a link to do so. Seeing more and more of this on gunbroker.

^. This. There is an option to report a listing on GB.

 

[CountyWorker]

A big one at that.



^. This. There is an option to report a listing on GB.

Every seller on GB starts with NR. I recently bought a rifle from a guy in Vegas who was new to GB. I watched as he went from NR to 5 positive feedbacks in his first week and then purchased a rifle from him. He communicated well and shipped fast.

Also, the Report link on GB doesn't work well. I went to Help and it was easy to navigate to report the fraud.

 

[Ramjet12]

The fastest way to get GB's attention is to use the DMCA. If you took the pictures then you own the copyright on them.
Everyone should watermark their pictures. In the past I haven't done it but I can see that I should watermark every picture I take and post online.

 

[SUPER X]

The GB seller could also be the classified ad poster. unless the ads are in different states with far distance between them it would be a good idea make sure before reporting it.