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Clark rifles - what's the scoop?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by thirtycal, Jan 27, 2015.

  1. thirtycal

    thirtycal Camas, WA Active Member

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  2. CIPuyleart

    CIPuyleart La Center, WA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Just the email from them saying they are closed until further notice due to "an incident near the range." The KOIN story makes it sound like bullets leave the range all the time, landing in neighbor's yard regularly... which is BS.
     
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    KTM530XCW Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    “slight possibility that it was a bullet or a firearm round that grazed the woman.”

    WTF does that even mean?!? It's "slightly possible" that I'm going to have a 3- some tonight. Yup, that's right. About one in a billion odds, but it's totally "slightly possible"
     
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    FZRider Lacey, Wa Active Member

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  5. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ^^^^ Whoa! Not for you goofy face!
     
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  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yeah! They made it sound like the impact area for the Artillary School at Fort Sill, OK! They did point out that the range has been there a lot longer than the house! Big of them ;)
     
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  7. tac

    tac UK, Oregon and Ontario. Well-Known Member

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    I'm a long-distance honorary member of Clark Rifles [thanks, Lee], and every time I've been there I've been impressed with the level of responsibility shown by all active shooters on the firing points. I'm looking forward to my next visit in June this year - it's almost six thousand miles for me to pay a visit, and I'd sure like to think that it would be open for business as usual.

    tac
     
  8. Kid@Heart

    Kid@Heart Vancouver, USA Cynic Lifetime Supporter Diamond Supporter

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    There is a Clark Rifles neighbor that has been complaining for years. I wonder if it is the same person?
     
  9. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I "should" be in line to join this year after a 5 year wait - then this happens...

    My wife made a joke about how it would suck to have them shut down 2 weeks before I get to join - haha?

    Anyway, they have been there a long time, I doubt they will be going anywhere.
     
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  10. thirtycal

    thirtycal Camas, WA Active Member

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    The KATU news article comments are getting good. Here's what may be a likely scenario:

    aka_scoreboard37 minutes ago

    The first time in over 40 years of operation that this has happened? I find it highly unlikely that it was a bullet that grazed her head. I think she grazed her head against something in her yard and is using the gun range as an excuse to try to get it shut down.


    People can sue for anything these days, and bankrupt a person/organization by forcing them to mount a civil defense. I hope that doesn't happen here; and I would hope that before anything like that could happen, the investigator would a) have to find the projectile, and b) have firm reason to believe it came from the range, and not from someone in any of the surrounding rural area that may have been shooting that day.

    If you look at a map, it's easily seen that this incident area is just a few hundred yards away from what is effectively wilderness area where alot of outdoor shooting goes on.

    -thirtycal
     
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    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I've been a member for years, and it would be hard to imagine a more professionally run outdoor range.

    Saw a post on the KATU forum where someone speculated it may not have come from the range at all; maybe some yahoo close by shooting somewhere else. I think that's an excellent point. Given the care and level of supervision taken by Clark Rifles, that seems far, far more likely to me.
     
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  12. thirtycal

    thirtycal Camas, WA Active Member

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    Don't think so. That situation was with a down-range neighbor. Rumor has it that she called range folks to her home to see holes in her siding (alleged to have been made by lost rounds from the range). Upon inspection, it was seen that sawdust had fallen from the holes onto bricks underneath.

    The current 'grazing' incident, as best I can tell from the available information, would appear to be associated with the residence directly across Rawson rd. Although across the road, in terms of property lines it is 'adjacent' to Clark Rifles, as the KATU article states. If this is the property in question, then it is 180 degrees opposite of down-range.

    https://www.google.com/maps/place/C...ata=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x54266cc82d0b41dd

    This is merely speculation, given the slim details provided so far.

    -Thirtycal
     
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    stoney Brush Prairie, WA Member

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    stoney Brush Prairie, WA Member

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    I live very near the range and I hear gun fire from many other places other then from the range, most of it comes from east of it. Also a lot comes from Camp Bonneville.
     
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    Kid@Heart Vancouver, USA Cynic Lifetime Supporter Diamond Supporter

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    Yep,

    Same person...

    It's the folks that built a house right at the end of the 300 yard rifle range.
     
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  16. thirtycal

    thirtycal Camas, WA Active Member

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    You sure? Not sure how it could be that person because the article states the residence is on Rawson Rd, and the house you're talking about is on 257th:

    "the woman was on her property, off Northeast Rawson Road"

    I guess the author of the article could be still be accurate since 257th is technically off Rawson Road.

    If it's that person (with whom the range has had a history of disputes), then certainly this is meaningful and I would hope a sensible reporter would actually include that rather important detail in their article.

    It will be very interesting if this is true.

    -Thirtycal
     
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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    <- Why there aren't any school shootings in Israel!
    Teacher with long gun slung over her shoulder!!!

    Didn't that same couple complain about the "bullets" they found coming from the range and when the cops checked they found unfired rounds strewn around? Or is that just an urban legend?

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    JO JO Vancouver WA Active Member

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    when we used to shoot qualification at Clark Rifles 6 or 7 years ago we were told then that the range could
    not be accused of anymore bullets going over the backstops and they could be facing possible issues in the
    future I think this problem with the neighbors has been going on for a long time and it seems that Washington is also becoming very much more liberal and anti gun friendly anymore I sure hope the best
    for Clark Rifles.
     
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    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I've been there a few times and it seems like every other outdoor range or shooting area. People move in around there and all of the sudden the range is a bother to them and they complain or call the cops saying bullets are whizzing by theor homes.

    Same thing happened to my favorite shooting spot on BLM near Bend.

    Or portland airport
     
  20. Kid@Heart

    Kid@Heart Vancouver, USA Cynic Lifetime Supporter Diamond Supporter

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    They interviewed her and some others on the news tonight. Talked about how bullets are "always" hitting her house. Gave her name. Yep, same person.