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Clackamas Mall No Guns Sign

Discussion in 'Defensive Carry & Self Defense' started by cascadianliberty2012, Nov 17, 2016.

  1. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 None Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this has been mentioned before, but I just noticed that there are no longer "no guns" signs on the doors of the Clackamas Mall (the movie theater side). I don't go there often, is this a recent thing?
     
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  2. USMC-03

    USMC-03 Moscow on the Willamette (i.e. Portland, Oregon) Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmm... that's interesting. Haven't been there for a while though.
     
  3. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 None Well-Known Member

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    I looked around on the doors and couldn't find them. I distinctly remember them being rather obvious.
     
  4. BradC

    BradC Clackamas Active Member

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    I believe those were quietly taken down after the shooting a couple years ago. A former security guard for the mall was carrying concealed and stopped the shooter. I think they took them down after that because I definitely haven't seen them since, but could be wrong.

    The entrance to the movie theater still has a sign that's kind of off to the side by the ticket booth and not exactly noticeable. Seriously, how are you going to stop bad guys from bringing guns in if they can't see the sign? :s0114:
     
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  5. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 None Well-Known Member

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    I remember seeing them more recently than 2 years ago.
     
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  6. DB Wesner

    DB Wesner Tacoma You need more cowbell. Silver Supporter

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    These signs have no force of law, they can only trespass you.

    That being said my wallet follows my gun, they must be best friends or something because if one isn't allowed the other won't follow...weird.
     
  7. BradC

    BradC Clackamas Active Member

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    Oh ok, you're probably right. I still wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with the shooting though. It was funny that right after it happened and they reopened, they had plenty of security but absolutely none of them were armed, but they were supposed to keep us all at ease?
     
  8. cascadianliberty2012

    cascadianliberty2012 None Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely! It may have been something where they didn't want to appear reactionary, so they waited a couple years before changing things. Also, it could be that they got new doors or something and just opted to not put new ones on.
     
  9. BradC

    BradC Clackamas Active Member

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    Ya that's what I was thinking too.
     
  10. USMC-03

    USMC-03 Moscow on the Willamette (i.e. Portland, Oregon) Well-Known Member

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    Firearms prohibitions and posted signs are typically requirements of insurance carriers strictly for limiting liability. "Hey, we said no guns, now we don't have to open the check book..."
     
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  11. ob1

    ob1 49th parallel Well-Known Member

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    Sure...doesn't it make you all warm and fuzzy ?
    BTW...I have some submarine screen doors I am selling cheap. :rolleyes:
     
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  12. oknow

    oknow amboy wa. Well-Known Member

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    No gun sign's ?????? Never saw one anywhere, but then I don't look for them.
     
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  13. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    No firearms signs in theaters or malls are notices for crazy and murderous people to go hunting and kill law abiding citizens and those that can not protect themselves.
     
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  14. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Don't know because my wallet and I
    A) avoid any place that prohibits firearms and
    B) don't go into crowded areas anymore due to
    C) crybaby riots and
    D) announced terror threats for the Christmas season by ISIS.
     
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  15. Ralgha

    Ralgha Portland Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I've never noticed any signs there, but I pretty much ignore any sign in a mall anyway since the vast majority are advertising a bunch of bubblegum that I don't need or want.
     
  16. BradC

    BradC Clackamas Active Member

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    Oh and sorry this isn't really related but the guy who stopped the Clackamas shooting didn't have to fire a shot (for those that don't know the story). He pulled his gun, aimed it at the shooter, and the coward ran and shot himself. Concealed carry is particularly effective for mass shootings where the perpetrators expect to be the only one with the power to kill, just sayin'
     
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  17. teflon97239

    teflon97239 Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps someone there actually gave some thought to what that kind of sign might be conveying to bad players...

    "Hey you - Captain Crazypants: This is a huge, crowded public enclosure with only a couple doors. It's willingly populated by meek, compliant people with no means to defend themselves or strike back. In other words, it's a perfect target of opportunity."
     
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  18. nammac

    nammac I-5 Corridor - West of Portland Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    On those rare occasions where I find myself at a shopping mall, I don't necessarily look for signs telling me that it's a victim gallery...

    Rather I usually comment to the wife about how ill prepared the security is, and how I'm much better prepared for a SHTF situation...

    Never go out without my personal protection... Just sayin'...
     
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    Alex V Portland, OR Member

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  20. BradC

    BradC Clackamas Active Member

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    Definitely a liability thing. If you bury your weapons policy on your website (which nobody looks at before going to the mall) then you're obvious not actively trying to keep people from carrying. Otherwise you'd be posting it on all the doors in the building itself. But the policy is posted, so if they had a problem they could refer to it and say "we technically posted it"