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Citizens of 19 states and counting pushing for secession.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by idaho, Nov 12, 2012.

  1. idaho

    idaho Eastern Washington. I work and play in Idaho. Member

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    Thousands of signatures and counting. Once a petition hits 150 signatures, it goes public. Until then, its up to individuals to promote it.
    Oregon's
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...on-peacefully-and-remain-ally-nation/X3kWX8kF
    Montana's
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ca-and-create-its-own-new-government/l76dWhwN
    Idaho's. NEEDS Signatures to go public and gain the momentum it needs.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ca-and-create-its-own-new-government/vXFkbBBM

    News article explaining a little more about this movement.
    Secession petitions filed on White House Web site

    Edit to add: At first glance, its not directly related to firearms. However, the idea of secession from the union is in itself an issue related to firearms. Particularly policy similar to Montana's about not falling under federal laws concerning manufacture, class, or possession of certain firearms.

    Update, well over 20 states now. And Texas blew past the 25k number of signatures needed to actually make the White House respond to the demand. Please, lets the NW involved. Oregon, Idaho, Montana, start signing!
     
  2. gearhead

    gearhead NC Active Member

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    I'd say it is directly related to firearms, as any attempt to separate from the Union would probably turn nasty like it did in the War of Northern Agression.
     
  3. thereddog

    thereddog State of Jefferson Active Member

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  4. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Check the survival and preparedness forum, already a thread on this. Regardless it is totally and completely meaningless and absolutely nothing will come of it.

    Okay maybe not meaningless, but its not new that people are unhappy with the elcetion.
     
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  5. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    I'm not signing it.
     
  6. 9mmguy

    9mmguy Portland, OR Member

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    The flag has 50 stars. Not 49 or 31.
     
  7. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    How about 51 ? :D :D :D
     
  8. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Might be time for that number to change.
     
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  9. carracer

    carracer Nampa, Idaho Active Member

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    57?
     
  10. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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  11. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Yeah, and when you consider these petitions were posted by, then spammed with thousands of votes by organized political groups, it is nothing but sour grapes from sore losers that would rather continue creating division rather than look at the recent loss and learn how to adapt and win next time.
     
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  12. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    PS: Considering the vast majority of those states are "taker" states that take more federal revenue than they generate, I would think most conservative would want them kicked out of the union. Not go out with them.
     
  13. thurston24

    thurston24 Richland, WA Member

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    Let's see, gun rights being on the chopping block along with a hostile small business environment, I can see why some would think about leaving the US. Thank goodness for the Constitution though, it will endure and save the country despite the short term damage.
     
  14. Phather

    Phather South SnoCo Active Member

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    Exactly.

    United States Federal Tax Dollars -
     
  15. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Nice area around Ten Sleep. I'm a Wyoming native. If I won the lottery I'd move back within a month.
     
  16. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    :eatpop:
     
  17. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I have never seen such turd kicking and cry baby antics as what has ocurred as a result of the past two POTUS elections.
     
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    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Implying seceding states would have to continue operating the federally mandated entitlement programs that results in their net intake, those entitlement programs being a primary reason driving secessionist sentiment.

    As usual, statist math is devoid of all logic.
     
  19. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Could you give some specifics regarding this claim?
     
  20. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Would it be safe to assume that when the time comes you will pass on taking social security or Medicare? If a state seceeded you would move there?
     
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