Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

CIA to arm, train Syrian rebels....

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by explorerimports, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. explorerimports

    explorerimports WA Active Member

    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    71
    As the United States prepares to supply Syrian rebels with small arms through a CIA-run program, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said Saturday that U.S. troops temporarily in neighboring Jordan will leave behind fighter jets and a cache of Patriot missiles.

    So far the White House has committed only to supplying rebel forces with small arms and ammunition, following confirmation that the regime of Syria President Bashar al-Assad's has been using chemical weapons in the 2-year-long civil war in which at least 90,000 people have been killed.

    Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain and other Capitol Hill military hawks have called for much heavier arms including the Patriot defense missiles and for the United States to enforce a no-fly zone over Syria.

    However, the Pentagon made clear Saturday the detachment of missiles and F-16s was brought to Jordan as part an annual, multi-nation military exercise called Eager Lion and will remain there only at the request of the country leaders, when the exercise ends next week.

    The White House announced the decision to aid the Syrian opposition Thursday. President Obama vowed last summer to take action should the Assad regime cross a “red line” by using chemical weapons, but has been challenged in verifying whether Assad's forces used chemical weapons and in determining which rebel forces can be trusted.

    Critics of the plan say it might be too little, too late as Assad's forces appear to be taking control of the war.

    The White House has still not decided whether to send anti-tank weapons, while the CIA prepares to arm and train the rebels, as confirmed Saturday by Fox News.

    Secretary of State John Kerry on Saturday explained the president’s decision to go beyond supplying humanitarian aid.

    He told Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari that the use of chemical weapons, the militant group Hezbollah’s increasing support of Assad forces as well as the regime’s threats and lack of commitment to negotiate “put a political settlement out of reach,” according to the State Department.

    The United States also has roughly 5,000 troops in Jordan. But they will leave at the end of the military exercise. And the arming of the Syrian rebels will happen in Turkey, another bordering county, military sources say.

    Russia, which backs Assad, is questioning the White House’s evidence about chemical weapons, including the use of the nerve gas sarin and says the reports do not meet stringent criteria for reliability. Russian officials also opposed the call by McCain and others for a no-fly zone over Syria.

    In fighting Saturday, Assad forces captured a suburb of Damascus near the capital's international airport, according to SANA, Syria's state news agency.

    SANA says troops killed several rebels and destroyed their hideouts in the Ahmadiyeh area on Saturday, two days after a mortar round landed near the airport's runway and briefly disrupted flights.

    A local rebel commander who identified himself by his nickname, Abu Hareth, for fear of government reprisals, said soldiers and rebels have been fighting sporadically in the area since late Friday. He said two rebel fighters have been killed there since.

    Ahmadiyeh is part of a region known as Eastern Ghouta, where government forces have been on the offensive for weeks.

    Read more: CIA to arm, train Syrian rebels; Hagel says US jets, missiles brought to Jordan will stay | Fox News



    CIA to arm, train Syrian rebels; Hagel says US jets, missiles brought to Jordan will stay | Fox News
     
  2. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

    Messages:
    5,969
    Likes Received:
    5,495
  3. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,191
    Likes Received:
    981
    Those rebels are not our friends. There are no American interests there. Obama put his foot in his mouth. He eliminated the best option of simply letting Allah sort this out by having them kill each other. This is another fine example of his stellar leadership and foreign policy skills.
     
  4. salmonriverjohn

    salmonriverjohn N.W Oregon coast, Gods country Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,143
    Likes Received:
    4,251
    The french sort of did this in Vietnam, then we started an advisor role, then the CIA started arming "rebels". Then China got into it, then we did. Obananas a fool, McCain should shut his dottling senile old mouth, and that whole region should be left to their own demise. THEY started their own conflict, and THEY need to bring it to its culmination. We have too damn many problems of our own looking us in the eyes right now. But, anything that takes the mind of the commoners from the reality that this administration is a complete failure and nary any better than previous one is all it takes these days. Can you smell it yet? Thats the stuff they're preparing to throw into the fan folks, and it will be ten more years and many more young American lives lost,, for what?
     
  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

    Messages:
    12,912
    Likes Received:
    19,559
    For what, you ask? Well that's EASY... to facilitate the ushering in of a new Caliphate, that's why!
     
  6. crankshaft

    crankshaft oregoncity New Member

    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    15
    Right you are!
     
  7. Cuthbert Allgood

    Cuthbert Allgood Clark County, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    276
    If those rebels want to be free, then they have to be willing to fight for it by themselves. Their conflict is none of our business. After taking out Assad, a new puppet government will be put in place. Over time they'll come to an understanding that our government cannot be trusted and back stab this country once they're able. McCain should have been left in Vietnam.
     
  8. salmonriverjohn

    salmonriverjohn N.W Oregon coast, Gods country Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,143
    Likes Received:
    4,251
    Hell the russians have it right. They know when to flex and when not to. This is something they learned the hard way in Afghanistan, and we're the one's that taught it to them. Something we did to them that our current administration can't seem to remember. If Assad falls, life will be very dicey for Israel, Jordan and Turkey. Like it or not, at least he gives a measure of stability to a region that's overflowing with insanity. With Iran backed Hezbollah in the mix, and the rebels backed by Al Qaeda this should be a no brainer for any admin. with half a brain,, let the enemy of my enemies kill each other, problem solved right? But then again I'm referencing the Obama administration and the ship of fools.

    Is this the tail wagging the dog perhaps?

    Stomper, I agree with you and I can only look back at all the other attempts to place a puppet that have failed. Where do we want to start, Saddam Hussein, The shah of Iran? The list is endless.
     
  9. salmonriverjohn

    salmonriverjohn N.W Oregon coast, Gods country Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,143
    Likes Received:
    4,251
  10. Will

    Will Everett Active Member

    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    54
    I go to Israel on business a few times a year, they have this sort of thing figured out. Let them fight and only get involved if it spills over into there country. I think we could learn a lot from that prospective. No matter the outcome in Syria the effect will be the same for us, with the exception we have now trained and better armed a unstable nation. By getting involved with a minor threat nation like this will only help feed the fires of those in the region that believe the USA wants to control the world.
     
  11. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    wait a minute.... didn't that arse just sign some kind of arms deal at the UN that stops this sort of thing??

    I mean please, correct me if I'm wrong.....
     
  12. explorerimports

    explorerimports WA Active Member

    Messages:
    257
    Likes Received:
    71
    [video=youtube;x-CrNlilZho]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZho[/video]
     
  13. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    2,541
    Likes Received:
    5,653
    We can learn a lot from a country surrounded by mortal enemies. Soon, our brilliant foreign policy will place us in the same position.
     
  14. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

    Messages:
    2,436
    Likes Received:
    2,772
    1979
    Russians in Afghanistan!
    CIA to train, arm, and finance Afghan Mujahideen Rebels!
     
  15. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    6,463
    Likes Received:
    7,669
    And how well did that work out for us?
     
  16. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    2,541
    Likes Received:
    5,653
    Make that still working out for us...